am i good?

[Matthew M.]

I've been playing for about a year, and I was wondering how I was coming along. I can play about 150 bpm. How fast were ya'll playing after a year?

[rbehr]

Quater notes or 16ths?

I been playing 6 months and i can hit 2 hundred some anyways with quarter notes.

[Matthew M.]

I'm talking 16ths.:D

[MadMattUK]

hahahaha

u think speed makes u good?!

let me hear ur speed in a musical context then ill rate u.

[imikeyi]

you can't just say '150bpm' and expect people to know how you play.. if anything they'll judge you as being bad because you dont understand what im about to say:

i can play most scales at pretty much the fastest speed i would ever need to play at, which is very fast. however i am learning a lot of flamenco stuff and i cannot play very fast in many songs of this style. my point is just because you can play one simple thing fast, doesnt mean you can play everything at that speed.

and fast doesnt neccessarily equal good!

[GuitarMonky55]

good is measured in can you make good music. a good guitarist such as jimi can pluck one note and fill it with so much music that it makes you shake, and then you get yngwie playing 100000000000000000000 notes per second and most people are like ugh when they hear it

[Matthew M.]

I know that speed doesn't make a person great. BUT, if you have speed AND musical abilities, then you'll be a god. Fron the start I've been working on speed, but latel;y I've been working on theory and stuff. Oh, and one other thing, I really don't think jimi was all that geeat. Maybe for his time he was, but now he wouldn't stand a chance.

[mu1der]

Matthew M. you don't know what your on about mate, don't know what music is about?

Expressing you self, and you can't do that just by playing a scale really fast.

Who are your favorite guitarists? as a matter of interest

[Highlander]

. Oh, and one other thing, I really don't think jimi was all that geeat. Maybe for his time he was, but now he wouldn't stand a chance.

what you mean by the way hes like totally dead and stuff? yeh i guess that would have a bearing on any future musical project.

[GuitarMonky55]

if he were here today he would adapt as needed and would still be pumping out great guitar driven albums. the thing that sets him apart isnt a tangible thign such as the speed or tone of his playing or complex chord shapes or strange scales...he was a guitar player. he was truly talented and the guitar was part of him when he played.

i honestly dont put any emphasis on speed unless i feel like playing a symphony x cover or something...

[Matthew M.]

Who are your favorite guitarists?

Dave Mustaine & Kirk Hammett are my two all-time favorites. I also like Neal Schon.


What you mean by the way he's totally dead and stuff?

Obviously that would hinder any projects. I just mean that w/ all the incredible guitarists out there now, he would be as popular. PPl like Mustaine, Hammett, Schon, Scholtz, Vai, Petrucci, Satriani, Malsteem, shall I go on?

Expressing you self, and you can't do that just by playing a scale really fast.

I beg to differ. If I express myself that way, than that's how I do it. Fast is how I am, therefore it's how I express myself.

[brenden_nelson]

This has turned into one of those pointless debates....

[mu1der]

yup

[GuitarMonky55]

but how do you express yourself with speed if you can only play 16th notes at 150 bpm...

[fizz]

That's like you replying to questions like these:

How are you? 'I'm fast thanks'
How did you feel after watching that film? 'I felt fast'
Did you enjoy it? 'Oh yes, it was so emotional and fast'
What's this song about? 'It's all about when you feel really fast'

It just doesn't make sense. You cant have songs that are based around fast scales. The trick is turning your speed into music which sounds good. Yngwie has achieved this, but many of us have not. Songs are about emotions. Heavy music is sometimes based around a lot of things, hatred, jealousy, etc. That's why the lyrics are the way they are, and the guitars sound so brutal sometimes, so as to get the message across. It really doesn't matter how fast, listen to some 'sludgecore' or whatever it's called now, that'll send the message home, heavy stuff, played very slowly.

I'm not knocking you on purpose, but it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Sure you can play 150bmp, and good on ya, but that doesn't make you, or anyone, a guitar god.

[wild_axeman]

heavy stuff, played very slowly.

Oh you mean Black Sabbath! :D

[Matthew M.]

I can see your point, but that doesn't mean I agree w/ you. What emotion does Malmsteem show or feel? Answer me that. If I were to use a minor scale or a diminished scales, it'd show that I'm sad or upset. If I used a jazz scale, like the lydian scale, then it'd show I'm happy. Same w/ the major scale. The SOUND is what it's about. Like I said, I know that fast alone doesn't make you a god, but it does add a dimension to it.

[Merletto]

How about posting a recording of yourself rather than arguing over nothing?

[GuitarMonky55]

the scale or whatnot is not the kind of feel we mean...listen to srv or hendrix...thats the kind of feel we are talkinga bout

[blank]

well, i'm sure you think you're pretty good at playing the guitar. but if speed is so important to you, come back when you're doing at least 200bpm 16ths and brag then.

[Matthew M.]

I do listen to srv, and i like him. Alot. Granted, his stuff is hard to play, and it's not fast. But so is Malmsteem's. come back when you're doing at least 200bpm at 16ths and brag then Don't worry, I will.

I didn't mean to make such an uproar, guys. I know that there are guys out there who don't play for speed, and are incredible. I realize that. But there are also guys out there who are crazily fast, and there equally incredible. Music is about emotion. like ya'll say. But w/ out emotion, it wouldn't be music. Therefore, there's some type of emotion in shred.

[joonboy]

Originally posted by Matthew M.
I do listen to srv, and i like him. Alot. Granted, his stuff is hard to play, and it's not fast. But so is Malmsteem's. Don't worry, I will.

I didn't mean to make such an uproar, guys. I know that there are guys out there who don't play for speed, and are incredible. I realize that. But there are also guys out there who are crazily fast, and there equally incredible. Music is about emotion. like ya'll say. But w/ out emotion, it wouldn't be music. Therefore, there's some type of emotion in shred.


I've been playing for 1 and half years, I can say I'm pretty good... but not at shredding... I can get 16ths at 100bpm with a good attack, tone, etc.

Why don't you post a clip of you shredding?

[stinkypinky]

Obviously speed does not = good guitar playing, but for the record I've been playing 20 years and have trouble picking 16th notes faster than about 150 bpm. I fear that at some point I must have fried the cluster of brain cells that would have allowed me some real speed. I should also mention that speed has never been a major goal of mine on the guitar, so it isn't something I've practiced much.

So anyway, if the question is "Am I fast?", then the answer is yes, you're pretty fast.

But it does beg another question: "So what?"

[Bluesin My Mind]

"There's lots of guitar players out here, they just play it. They play fast, they don't concentrate on no soul..." -Albert King

[ecthelion]

I have strong views about this subject, and it seems to me that Malmsteen's only emotion he's conveying is his ego when he's playing at 800 BPM.

To paraphrase someone on HC:

There are no guitar arenas. This is not 1984. This is not Crossroads. No one wants to hear you shred.

You want a challenge? Write a four-chord rock song, and make it good. Real good.

[tonedef jd]

Originally posted by Bluesin My Mind
"There's lots of guitar players out here, they just play it. They play fast, they don't concentrate on no soul..." -Albert King


amen.

[FireJin3]

Different people ,different guitarists, different style.

[StonedSandman]

In my opinion the whole concept of feel and soul is a personal thing. Some guy may shred like 32nd notes at 350 BPM and do it to convey a feeling of aggression or urgency. A blues man might just play one note and its an expression of his sadness. Different emotions call for different speeds, what I've always believed anyway.

[satch]

Originally posted by Matthew M.
Dave Mustaine & Kirk Hammett are my two all-time favorites. I also like Neal Schon.




Obviously that would hinder any projects. I just mean that w/ all the incredible guitarists out there now, he would be as popular. PPl like Mustaine, Hammett, Schon, Scholtz, Vai, Petrucci, Satriani, Malsteem, shall I go on?



I beg to differ. If I express myself that way, than that's how I do it. Fast is how I am, therefore it's how I express myself. Do you have electric world by Neal Schon?
Its one of my alltime favorite guitar albums.
The tension and build up in gypsy dance is a great moment in guitar
He is the kind of player i would want to be.
singing phrases with blinding chromatics in between.
I think if he were on stage with 100 other famous great players he would outshine them all.His playing is so tasteful and fast in the right places without his talent over taking the music.

[god_in_training]

There are no guitar arenas.


There are websites now that host "guitar wars"....anyway...I personally like all guitar speeds lol if it sounds good it sounds good...its all good :D

[xxjohnboy]

hendrix is overrated. it is amazing to see how no matter how much you deny it, people are very happy to follow the crowd. Following the crowd is alot of fun guys! :) I do it all the time. But sometimes the crowd gets worked into a frenzy and is stupid. And then people die and become legendary.
I could make a better song than hendrix if i shoved my guitar up my bum and smashed it on the drumkit. HAHAHAH!!

nah not really. But I do skip Hendrix songs whenever they come on my playlist coz in 2004 I got about 100000000000000000 better songs to listen to.

[xxjohnboy]

yes Matthew_M. You are awesome mate. I was still trying to play my bar chords properly. I could play eagle rock though!!!

[I_cant_play]

Keep in mind everything is relative. You don't have fast unless you have slow to compare it to. You say you like Hammett, I do too. I read an interview a while ago with metallica and one of them said that while making "kill em all" they realized quickly that fast was nothing without slow. Tempo and rhythm make the song. Listen to Battery, you have a fast riff and then chords strummed afterwards..then the fast riff again and so on. Also if faster is better, where is the limit? As soon as all these virtuosos started popping up guitar playing seems to have turned into a race. In the 80s fast guitar players were practically growing on trees...

[beautiful_dae]

Anyone can play fast. Just lot's of pratice. But not everyone can improvise well and play with feeling. Fast stuff tends to get bored after a few listen. Jimi hendrix overrated? He is not great? He doesn't write great song? Well he is a guitarist for god sake. He doesn't play guitar to put nice lyrics into his song but to put cool, soothing, and soulful solo, riffs and licks into his song. If you notice, his live concert, he concentrate more on guitar than on singing. And remember one thing, guitarist that play slow with feelin is able to play fast but guitarist that play fast and all those shredders can't play slow with feelin'.

[Mettra]

Originally posted by beautiful_dae
And remember one thing, guitarist that play slow with feelin is able to play fast but guitarist that play fast and all those shredders can't play slow with feelin'.

And who wrote this wonderful little rule?

[HipPi3]

Why can't you guys just respect the guitarists for what they're good at? Jimi Hendrix was great, granted he didn't play the fastest, but I think that woudln't have been his style anyway. Malmsteem is a monster, and is amazing on video, but just listening to him? It's not nearly as entertaining as Hendrix's creativity. It's still awe-inspiring to watch him shred though.

Hammett is awesome as well, think of him as Jimi with metal and not blues, but if you try listening to the new stuff... Well, let's not lose TOO much respect for him.

[wild_axeman]

It's not about speed because I've heard alot of top notch shredders slow it down and play beautifully.It's a bunch of people who are under the false impression that "bluesy" sounding playing equals "more feeling".Yes when you play bluesy you stick longer note values in there and maybe alot of sustain and then all of a sudden a whole bunch of people think you are some type of "feel" master.To me fast flurries of notes can have just as much if not more "feel" than those awesome wide vibratos and sustained notes and bluesy bends do.Mix the two and you're really expressing yourself.

Jimi IS "feel"...he played with long durations AND fast flurries of notes.

I read an interview a while ago with metallica and one of them said that while making "kill em all" they realized quickly that fast was nothing without slow. Well then allow me to point out the obvious by saying that slow is nothing without fast.Ha Ha :D

[mu1der]

how can any guitar player disrespect hendrix man. it's beyond belief

[xxjohnboy]

i just like stirring people up sometimes with erratic opinions. it keeps my debating skills up by defending these ridiculous opinions. Problem is when i feel I have won the debate I accept my radical views as being right. which is why I think Hendrix is overrated.

[AMP]

Few simple points of interest.

Speed does not equal Good
Good does not equal speed.

There is a lot more to Being good than being fast.

But, like all the commenting in the world does not mean diddly unless you put something up.

You may be the next kenny wayne shepard, who knows. Saying I can play x bps, am I good.. is not providing enough information.

I can play 150bps, but am not a shredder (yet) so am not good at shredding. I have been playing years though and only recently have I developed an interest in soloing. Pesonally shredding is overrated in many cases and unless done right is just for show and rather pointless. (no offense to those truly good shredders out there). I have found some instances lately with some things I Have been playing around with which could use a little rip or two.

So put something up and then we can tell you if you sound good or not. ;)

[dark_raptor01]

idiots. Anyone can play fast. seriously... i can probably play alot faster than most of you...yet...it doesn't really matter does it? some bozo could play fast as fuk but....can he do this? or this??? ....or this? fast is cool if you wanna annoy the neighbors, but playing the guitar is a whole lot more than that.

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by dark_raptor01
idiots. Anyone can play fast. seriously... i can probably play alot faster than most of you...yet...it doesn't really matter does it?

i can play flight of the bumble bee using 16th notes at 250bpm so if you can beat that than you are better than me. nothing else matters :p

[ThisCharmingMan]

My dad's bigger than your dad

:p

[StarCraft]

Man what the **** are you people talking about... Jimi hendrix is , was, will always be the sh!t...

this man did more then play the guitar... he was more than chord progressions, and blues scales... he hit notes that weren't just pleasing to the ear, but to the soul ... you know what i mean.

i listen to yngwie and i listen in amazment that he can play so fast...and he does make listenable music.

i listen to hendrix...and i listen in amazment at the fact that his songs give me goose bumps, his guitar playing INSPIRED Yngwie, and hammet. They wouldn't be half the players they are if not for hendrix...

Hendrix set the precident, he set the bar...and 40 year later...no one has come near to his level.

40 years later no one can do what hendrix did, which wasn't play 300 notes in 2 seconds, or writing catchy songs, or simply amazing other musicians with their technical mastery...

40 years l8er people are still trying to write music that stimulates, the mind, body, and soul.

hendrix man... hes untouchable.










P.S.
also, hendrix played the blues...hitting fast notes is more of a metal thing.

comparing artisits of different styles is like mixing liquer, u can't do it... its a rule that musent be broken, or risk looking like an ass.

[xxjohnboy]

Hendrix is OVERRATED!!!

what about poor old chuck berry (who i think is pretty crappy these days too)? they are both old and crap but i dont think chuck berry had the good fortune of dying to make him mega legendary.

[StarCraft]

i'm not even going to bother to respond to such a mindless post...

gooday to you sir

[xxjohnboy]

LOL i was in a stirring mood when i wrote that :)

[beautiful_dae]

Playing fast is a ego isn't it?:)

Imagine, a rainin' night, rain drops flow slowly down your window... you're sitting in front of your fireplace. You decide to play your guitar. You plug your guitar into your amp and with your family and friend eagerly waiting for you to play. They expect you to play a ballad which is suitable for a raining night but suddenly the loud distortion came on and you play fire and ice by yngwie malmsteen!

Play fast only when suitable. So you see speed is not everything.

[joonboy]

Originally posted by Matthew M.
I've been playing for about a year, and I was wondering how I was coming along. I can play about 150 bpm. How fast were ya'll playing after a year?


No you can't

I know for a fact that no normal person can be playing for a year and do 16th notes at 150 bpm. especially not exercises that can be memorized, but scalar runs

[joonboy]

Originally posted by Matthew M.
I know that speed doesn't make a person great. BUT, if you have speed AND musical abilities, then you'll be a god. Fron the start I've been working on speed, but latel;y I've been working on theory and stuff. Oh, and one other thing, I really don't think jimi was all that geeat. Maybe for his time he was, but now he wouldn't stand a chance.

That was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Both about the speed and Jimi

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by joonboy
That was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Both about the speed and Jimi

i agree completely with the dumb man (that post only). you are a disgrace to people who have the letters J O N B O and Y in their name.
sorry guys i am bored so i had to say something. i was compelled.

[stingx]

Originally posted by StarCraft
i'm not even going to bother to respond to such a mindless post...

gooday to you sir

You just did.

[StarCraft]

i know

gooday to you sir

[stingx]

:)

[Mettra]

Originally posted by joonboy
No you can't

I know for a fact that no normal person can be playing for a year and do 16th notes at 150 bpm. especially not exercises that can be memorized, but scalar runs

I don't know if I'm normal, but I've been playing since the end of last May (about 10 months I think that makes) and I can play more than half of Bach's Prelude II (WTC) at 160 bpm. It's straight 16th's.

Yes, it's very trim and clean as well.

Speed is something that's easily attained with practice. It's one of the easier aspects of the guitar.

[Lenin]

SPEED DOES NOT CREATE A GUITARIST, SANTANA SOUNDS AWESOME ALTHOUGH MOST OF HIS STUFF IS JUST PURELY BEAUTIFUL AND MODERATE IN SPEED. Yes, speed is of some value, but in my oppinion, if you are not original and creative, it will serve no purpose. I know many guitarists who are amazingly fast, they play Malmsteem's stuff but can't write a beautiful song that is just plainly original. For example, listen to Micheal Angelo, he is one of the fastest guitarists around. The problem is that he cannot write a BEAUTIFUL SONG OR RIFF, i mean, you don't need hundred notes to express your feelings. Sometimes one or two will do.

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by Mettra
I don't know if I'm normal, but I've been playing since the end of last May (about 10 months I think that makes) and I can play more than half of Bach's Prelude II (WTC) at 160 bpm. It's straight 16th's.

Yes, it's very trim and clean as well.

Speed is something that's easily attained with practice. It's one of the easier aspects of the guitar.

well you are amazing for the time you have played

[guitardeam0n]

Originally posted by xxjohnboy
well you are amazing for the time you have played

WEll this guy (mettra) spends hours a day playing his guitar. Lets see i remember him saying he plays 6-7 hours a day, for 10 months. Then you take a guitarist whos been playing an hour a day for 5 years.

mettra=1800 hours playing

guys whos been playing for 5 years=1825 hours of playing.

Its all about practice.

[GuitarMonky55]

Originally posted by Mettra
I don't know if I'm normal, but I've been playing since the end of last May (about 10 months I think that makes) and I can play more than half of Bach's Prelude II (WTC) at 160 bpm. It's straight 16th's.

Yes, it's very trim and clean as well.

Speed is something that's easily attained with practice. It's one of the easier aspects of the guitar.

i guess im not normal either. ive only been practicing my scales for about 3 weeks and i can do 200bpm 16th notes on any scale.

ive been playing about 3 years but up until about 9 months ago i played nothing but mindless power chord rock, so those dont relaly count as far as speed goes.

the point is, speed is something anyone can achieve by practice and discipline. but to really play the guitar you need a special gift, and usually speed isnt the best way to express that. but then you have rhandy rhoads who was probably one of the top 3 guitarists of all time who just shredded his mind out.

[xxjohnboy]

well i have been playing for about 9 years and can do chromatics at about 160bpm or so. i can do other runs faster but im a ways off 200bpm. i can do the flight of the bumble bee from the luismoreno.com site at about 160bpm as well. i also have a good sized package :)

[StarCraft]

Originally posted by xxjohnboy
i also have a good sized package :)

great.

[kirk_ham]

what the hell is the point in this whole bloody post.....??
its pretty obvious that no resolve wil come of anything anybody says.... Everybody stop bitch slapping each other and go play some guitar... or contribute in a more meaningful way to this place.....
any one think that maybe to be good you might just be able to play really fast and nice and slow..... a good player is one with the ability to play as many styles and ways as best as possible...
a well rounded player is the player who stands out from the typical shredder and the typical blues player.....
hendrix could have played fast if he wanted.... why the hell would he..... His music was some of the most influencial and to this day is still some of the most popular guitar playing....
all the great guitar gods today had certain influences from hendrix...
he completely changed the way the guitar was seen and used.....
not just him but others...chuck berry was ****in awesome as well....
play as much as you possibly can... keep an open mind to other ways of playing.... to me the best guitar player in the world wold be able to play whatever he wanted to play... be it fast or slow....
there is no set way to play its about mixing everything...

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by kirk_ham
what the hell is the point in this whole bloody post.....??


im fairly sure i have mentioned in a few posts that i enjoy pointless arguing sometimes. im always having arguments about religion too.

[kirk_ham]

arguing about religion sucks.....
no one will ever win....

[xxjohnboy]

maybe one day somebody will. but for the moment it is a pointless argument. and people arent willing to accept the fact that i am right.

[kirk_ham]

quite a lot of arguement is pointless..... we've got to have it though.... otherwise politicians would have no jobs.....
id like to see tony blair homeless....

[dave111]

Originally posted by xxjohnboy
i also have a good sized package :)

Well mine is massive










(couldn't resist)

[Jesus'guitarman]

yeah It's nothin about the speed have you seen an awesome guitarist do a solo. They migh tplay fats sometimes but it's about they kno wwhat to play and when to play it. Jimmi new how to set the mood by his musical ability.

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by Jesus'guitarman
yeah It's nothin about the speed have you seen an awesome guitarist do a solo. They migh tplay fats sometimes but it's about they kno wwhat to play and when to play it. Jimmi new how to set the mood by his musical ability.

stop talking about how good jimmi was. he is crap. who wants to make up songs like his?? nobody!

[iWANTaFENDER]

Damn "MR.Fast" the more you reply to people trying to explain music to you the more you reveal to us your musical senselessness.I mean "Jimi ain't that great"-What the...?He's excellent-genius-the best guitarist I've ever heard-I mean why don't you go try and play a song like Little Wing or maybe Castles Made Of Sand-just the notes and rythm and all.That's damn hard-AND those songs still sound cool enough to get airplay on lots of stations-but only someone with a feel for music like Jimi can ever play it right-I have to agree with Matt M-Jimi would've adapted,but if he didn't ppl wud've still been crazy about him

JIMI ROCKS!!!


Peace

[Ghost]

ugh....thought i would give my 0.02$

first off, anyone who says Jimi Hendrix is over-rated...he's a legend, period. You've got no arguments against that. His music may not be "hard" by today's standards, but one of this notes would be a better song than ANY shred you could write, EVER. He's an emotional guitar player.

Playing 16th notes on 150bmp...well that's good I guess, but what do you play? How long can you keep the rythme?

BTW...shreding is easy, there's nothing to it, you can just play notes blindly at a high speed. Once you write a song that has a meaning, or can actually reach out to someone then you can say your "good".

Malmsteen can play really fast, but his neo-classical style isn't incredible.

Whatever...you wanna say speed defines you as a guitar player? You havn't been listening to Kirk very much, his solos usually try to catch the feeling of the song, that's what music is all about, feeling.

Anyways, agree or disagree it's up to you, but don't ask if your good or not when your playing scales at 150bmp.

[Mettra]

Originally posted by Ghost
Malmsteen can play really fast, but his neo-classical style isn't incredible.

I agree with everything you said except this. I strongly disagree with this.

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by iWANTaFENDER
Damn "MR.Fast" the more you reply to people trying to explain music to you the more you reveal to us your musical senselessness.I mean "Jimi ain't that great"-What the...?He's excellent-genius-the best guitarist I've ever heard-I mean why don't you go try and play a song like Little Wing or maybe Castles Made Of Sand-just the notes and rythm and all.That's damn hard-AND those songs still sound cool enough to get airplay on lots of stations-but only someone with a feel for music like Jimi can ever play it right-I have to agree with Matt M-Jimi would've adapted,but if he didn't ppl wud've still been crazy about him

JIMI ROCKS!!!


Peace

I gave those songs a listen. and I imagine if they were somehow mixed up with someone elses album.
you sit there listening to dave matthews band ot JBT or something (coz they are kind similar) and then castles made of sand comes on and you go "what is this crap!?" why did John Butler Trio make this song up for? then all of a sudden you realise that it actually done by jimmi hendrix and you go "WHOA! That is cool!"
So what made the song cool?

I have no problem with people getting hyped up with the crowd, we all do it. but I do enjoy trying to convince you all of the simple fact that HENDRIX IS OVERRATED! Just admit you stubborn MoFos!

[beautiful_dae]

Originally posted by xxjohnboy
I gave those songs a listen. and I imagine if they were somehow mixed up with someone elses album.
you sit there listening to dave matthews band ot JBT or something (coz they are kind similar) and then castles made of sand comes on and you go "what is this crap!?" why did John Butler Trio make this song up for? then all of a sudden you realise that it actually done by jimmi hendrix and you go "WHOA! That is cool!"
So what made the song cool?

I have no problem with people getting hyped up with the crowd, we all do it. but I do enjoy trying to convince you all of the simple fact that HENDRIX IS OVERRATED! Just admit you stubborn MoFos!

If you are able to produce something that is better than jimi hendrix, then i'll say jimi hendrix is ****. I never listen to jimi hendrix's studio album. I only listen to his live album. Cause his style of playing varies everything and that makes him good. Listen to his woodstock's song. All different from studio album.

You may not like him but jimi hendrix is a great influence of malmsteen and many guitarist out there. So you can't deny that jimi hendrix is a turning point of music.

[StarCraft]

in response to the first post on this long long thread.


No!

now shut this biznatch down.

[xxjohnboy]

Originally posted by beautiful_dae
You may not like him but jimi hendrix is a great influence of malmsteen and many guitarist out there. So you can't deny that jimi hendrix is a turning point of music.

sure he influenced heaps of people. im sure his music still influences alot of people. but today he is overrated. I dont hate him but i certainly don't think he is awesome.

[beautiful_dae]

What do you mean by over rated?

[Ghost]

LOL I think people don't have a freaking clue what overrated means. If you just said his music influenced and still influences alot of people, that's like saying he's NOT over rated.

Today he's overrated? Yesterday he wasn't?

Seriously Jimi didn't write the hardest licks to play (except a few exceptions) but his music was full of soul.

[xxjohnboy]

overated. someone who deserves a 5 out of 10 getting a 9 out of 10 is overrated.
so laugh it up fun boy.

[dandjay]

Speed isnt everything, look at Clapton .He wasnt about speed and yet a great guitar player.I think haveing soul is more important than speed.

[Bluesin My Mind]

Originally posted by dandjay
Speed isnt everything, look at Clapton .He wasnt about speed and yet a great guitar player.I think haveing soul is more important than speed.
Though Clapton can still add some speed. i.e. Reconsider Baby on From the Cradle. Really fast fingerpicking.

[Gyrt]

It's not only the speed that makes you good..

I myself are having troubles with scales..
all though i consider my self as a quite good guitarist (after 4 years of playing) i'm having troubles with scales...:P

[Derision]

After reading through this thread I understand why Rock is so ****ty nowadays. Seriously rappers propably no more about music than some of you guys.

[sewerhobo]

lol... the greatest debate of all time. This topic will never be solved, no matter how many posts you make with mindless arguments that you think to be correct. THIS IS A MATTER OF OPINION. Learn to deal with it.

BTW, long time no see.

[penguins_r_kewl]

hahahaha

u think speed makes u good?!

let me hear ur speed in a musical context then ill rate u.

I completly agree, I can play fast on guitar, but I SUCK. Bass is more my thing.

[penguins_r_kewl]

I know that speed doesn't make a person great. BUT, if you have speed AND musical abilities, then you'll be a god.

Caugh, Eddie Van Halen, caugh.

[iDogcow]

Music is a form of expression. Soul is not more important than speed and speed isn't more important than soul. Whats important is the ability to express yourself or something else through music. It may be fast, intense, slow, soulful , funky, jazzy, hardcore, melancholy or whatever.

A great musician is one that is not limited by lack of ability. A great musician can express himself fully and completely on whatever instrument he plays in whatever way he chooses. This doesn't mean that you have to be well-versed in every style of playing- not at all. It means that whatever 'style' you play, be it blues, metal or Indian Classical you can express what you want to express and you can do it well and make it meaningful to others.
Hendrix did this along with millions of others all throughout history.
Music and musicians shouldn't be over or under-rated. They are what they are, and mean different things to different people. The only music I would call 'bad' is music that is made exculsively for selling and entertainment.

I know that speed doesn't make a person great. BUT, if you have speed AND musical abilities, then you'll be a god.
*cough* Satriani *cough* :D

[iDogcow]

Anyone can play fast. Just lot's of pratice. But not everyone can improvise well and play with feeling.



Just had to say I disagree with this. Anyone can improvise well and with feeling. Just takes lot's more practice :)

[wild_axeman]

I think haveing soul is more important than speed.

This is a loaded statement.The implication is that if you like speed
then you have no soulfulness and if you don't have the ability to play
fast then you're a soul man.Total bunk!

What is the big "soulful" standard by which we all should be measured
anyway?

Slow or fast are contrasting dynamics just like loud or soft,tension and
release,distorted and clean,acoustic and electric,effects or no effects,
happy and sad,angry and mellow,staccato and legato,muted & sustained
etc.

Believe it or not fast is just as soulful as slow.You just prefer slow.

The fact of the matter is you can't have "slow soulful playing" without
speed and you can't have "soulful fast playing" without slow playing.
It's the contrast that highlights one or the other.If you just play slow
you're going to put people to sleep.If you just played fast you're going
to get tiresome to hear.

I suggest you go listen to all of the mp3's posted by Scott Jones.


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[Metallicka]

I totally agree with that, that's why most of my favourite solos are of the 'sweet child of mine' type where they have slow and fast.

[notfunny63]

i dont think speed determines a guitarists full abilities but it deffinately does speak for at least a 1/4 of them but thats being fast and accurate, also u cant just be fast and play like 2 3 4, 2 3 4, 2 3 4, over and over switching to a new string every time its got to be good well i hope that makes sense cuz im always tryin to sound smarter than i am and it comes out like this a;dhfjalkdfhadhfad;fad c ya

[Hawk]

Hendrix's music wasn't perfect, but it did bring on a third demension of how music can hit you.

[xxjohnboy]

if it is possible for bands to be underrated than it is possible for jimi hendrix to be overrated imho. of course the fact that he is overrated means i am pushing **** up hill arguing with alot of dedicated jimi fans.
jimi is old and dead and there are bands around today who are so much better. alot of the reason that new bands are better is of course the sound quality. at the time, Jimi was a god, now he is not. there are people who are hardcore Jimi fans who have learned everything about his style plus other styles who surpass him now. but back then he had his own style and he was a pioneer. but now i listen to his music and it simply is not as good. i know if i said metallica craps all over jimi hendrix people will say all this stuff about not having the same soul as Jimi.
i reckon if they were to find a song made by Jimi hendrix that hadnt been released and they released it as 'Jimi's lost song!' there would be heaps of fans. but if they released under the name of 'average Joe' who has nothing to do with Jimi the song would flop coz it would prolly be crap by todays standard. poeple are buying into Jimi Hendrix's reputation as a guitar god rather than the songs themselves in alot of cases. coz if someone shows you a jimi song and you say you dont like it you get burnt and abused. it is just peer pressure.

bah enough ranting...

[i am sam2]

wow johnboy you are so unearthly wrong(if that phrase is possible). first, you said the sound quality isnt as good. did you know that half of that is that recording devices and amps were not as good back then as they are now. the other half is that jimi played with particular distortions and thus, that makes quality change.

second, jimi was a god, is a god, and always will be a god. he was so much better at the guitar than anyone from metallica has ever been or will ever be that its not even comparable. jimi hendrix was a guitar. he knew how to make the sound he wanted when he wanted it. i garuntee you if you(or one of your metallica members for example) wanted to play a riff, jimi could play it within seconds without lookin at the player. now reverse it. i doubt there are more than 10 people in the world who can play something jimi played(that theyve never heard) and play it back immediately.

third, saying that something jimi did and putting it in todays world as by a name other than hendrix and having it bomb is a ****ty analogy and heres why. take a metallica song and put it back in jimis time. same thing. furthermore, jimi defined rock in his time. metallica hasnt defined ****. except, in my opinion, just that: theyve defined what **** sounds like. now dont argue with me for not liking metallica cuz its my opinion, just like im not saying youre wrong for not liking jimi, im saying youre wrong for saying he was not amazing and deserved of praise.

fourth, what bluein my mind said is 100% correct. speed doesnt make you good, and clapton is proof. also, just to further expand, knowledge of scales doesnt make you good. and you can take jimi as proof of that.

and anyone who has any more b-tching about jimi should die. its ok if you dont like him, its not ok if you dont respect him.

[Hawk]

Yeah... I see what you mean, that was highly opinionated. He was great, but you are overrating him, and underrating todays guitarists.

I like his stuff, not just cause he's Jimi.

[Pichacho]

Music is a form of expression. Soul is not more important than speed and speed isn't more important than soul. Whats important is the ability to express yourself or something else through music. It may be fast, intense, slow, soulful , funky, jazzy, hardcore, melancholy or whatever.

A great musician is one that is not limited by lack of ability. A great musician can express himself fully and completely on whatever instrument he plays in whatever way he chooses. This doesn't mean that you have to be well-versed in every style of playing- not at all. It means that whatever 'style' you play, be it blues, metal or Indian Classical you can express what you want to express and you can do it well and make it meaningful to others.
Hendrix did this along with millions of others all throughout history.
Music and musicians shouldn't be over or under-rated. They are what they are, and mean different things to different people. The only music I would call 'bad' is music that is made exculsively for selling and entertainment.


*cough* Satriani *cough* :D

totally agree with that whole post, except the part about satriani :p . Personally, i dont like shred, i find it boring and the same. just my opinion tho :P

and about great musicians and meaningful and everything, cobain. Crappy guitarist, but one of the best songwriters of modern music. All in my opinion, of course :cool:

[StarCraft]

sam....

metallica defined metal....in thier time....i dont get the impression you knew that. Jimi didn't define rock, he defined the electric blues...which was a much smaller movment than the heavy metal movevment, if you want to get technical, which you seem to want to do.

what makes you just as ignorant as all the other ignorants is the simple fact that your even comparing.

to disagree with something is fine....to support your reasons by comparing two incomprable things is a waste of both our times.

and if you wish death on someone you better be prepared to go along too.

[Ghost]

sam....

metallica defined metal....in thier time....i dont get the impression you knew that. Jimi didn't define rock, he defined the electric blues...which was a much smaller movment than the heavy metal movevment, if you want to get technical, which you seem to want to do.

what makes you just as ignorant as all the other ignorants is the simple fact that your even comparing.

to disagree with something is fine....to support your reasons by comparing two incomprable things is a waste of both our times.

and if you wish death on someone you better be prepared to go along too.

He's not really comparing, he's just being a retard.

He's saying Kirk or James couldn't play a Jimi Hendrix riff just from hearing it...of course they could, they are professional musicians, so was Jimi. Plus, Hendrix style stuff isn't too hard to play at all, it's just got alot of soul and feeling added to it.

But comparing Metallica to Jimi Hendrix is like...ummm...well it's stupid, Metal doesn't work with Blues.

[Jason9x19]

Apples and oranges, man. Both were great in their prime, but nothing alike in style.

[Black Star]

I've been playing for about a year, and I was wondering how I was coming along. I can play about 150 bpm. How fast were ya'll playing after a year?


congratulations on your progress Matt, its good to see someone practicing. However, i used to be JUST like you, haha, SPEED SPEED SPEED. I was a major shredder, and i practiced so much it would make your ass hurt.

Now what happened was i got burnout, i began to hate the guitar, so i quit for a while, picked it up again, practiced and practiced, and FINALLY realized that this shred stuff is such a chore to practice, and i haven't practiced since...i write all the time and will begin recording soon, and that is where i've found my "niche" in music so to speak. I LOVE to write.

What i'm saying is practice other things, practice your THEORY, your rythm playing especially...rythm is JUST as important as lead. If you look at Vai, Petrucci, and so one they are great rythm players as well. Practice your improv man, practice making up your own stuff. Practice bends, vibrato, everything....don't get caught up in just speed. It's a tool, just like all your other tools and should be used to create tension and drama in the music, and not be "music" itself.

After all you want to be a great guitar player, not a great guitar practicer.

later bud, and keep it up man.

[xxjohnboy]

jimi made some great music. but is human and not unsurpassable on the guitar. he is not a god. he has his own style which has alot of fans (kind of like Elton John or Neil Diamond have their own style with lots of fans of their own)

what i am saying is that... it baffles me how jimi's music alone could make soooooooo many people into fans who vouch for him as the best guitarist/musician ever constantly. it is good but it aint that good. imho.

[muchavo]

its because of people like the one who made this thread that im not motivated to post in this forum anymore

[i am sam2]

sam....

metallica defined metal....in thier time....i dont get the impression you knew that. Jimi didn't define rock, he defined the electric blues...which was a much smaller movment than the heavy metal movevment, if you want to get technical, which you seem to want to do.

what makes you just as ignorant as all the other ignorants is the simple fact that your even comparing.

to disagree with something is fine....to support your reasons by comparing two incomprable things is a waste of both our times.

and if you wish death on someone you better be prepared to go along too.

nah man, i was saying that he was comparing two incomparable things. i think i got lost in my own argument tho. and youre right, i dont know crap about metal...mainly because i hate it. i do think jimi did a little more than electric blues tho (i.e. purple haze, voodoo child, wind cries mary, hey joe, are you experienced, highway chile..lots of his stuff isnt blues and he didnt get into blues as much until he became famous for his other stuff). and dont worry, im goin to die too.

[muchavo]

stop talking about how good jimmi was. he is crap. who wants to make up songs like his?? nobody!

actually you absolutly wrong, i do

[Franklins Tower]

It always helps when you are making such bold statements about things such as what johnboy and starcraft have up above, to have some knowledge of what you are talking about, that way it saves yourself from sounding silly.

[xxjohnboy]

It always helps when you are making such bold statements about things such as what johnboy and starcraft have up above, to have some knowledge of what you are talking about, that way it saves yourself from sounding silly.

I am not stupid... YOU are stupid...

[xxjohnboy]

actually you absolutly wrong, i do

except you will never be able to make a song as good as Jimi Hendrix because he made his songs with this undefinable greatness that makes millions of people claim he is the best guitarist ever.

How can you expect to make a song as good as jimi's stuff when no one in the world has done it yet?

You cant because he is ridiculuosly overrated and people buy into his reputation.

It goes like this...
a guy thinks this to himself... "hey if all the guitarists think this dude is a guitar god then he must be." then he listens to the songs. Then somebody asks "hey did you like jimi hendrix?" here he can say yes or no.

if he says yes then there is another convert that has been converted because of all the 'Jimi Hendrix is a god' advertising. Then he tells everyone else how good jimi is, doing some advertisng for the cause himself.

if he says no and explains why he thinks he is crap people call him stupid.


You could say that Jimi has a monopoly on the guitaring community and I dont like it. It is like Microsoft.

Microsoft pushes hard to make people buy Microsoft products otherwise they are disadvantaged.

Jimi Hendrix fans pushes hard to make people listen to his music. If you havent listened you are ignorant. If you dont like it and explain your reasons you are ignorant. and if you do like it you are accepted by the guitaring community and you tell everyone else how good Jimi is.

The point is once again that... He might be good but he is not a God. stop telling me he is a god unless you can give me a good reason why he is. I think you have overrated the hell out of him so I am just going to ignore it if it is the same old **** story.

[muchavo]

i think if an one has jimi hendrix over rated it you

listen to your self i dont want to do this but im going to , im going to try to disect you what said


1. except you will never be able to make a song as good as Jimi Hendrix because he made his songs with this undefinable greatness that makes millions of people claim he is the best guitarist ever.

How can you expect to make a song as good as jimi's stuff when no one in the world has done it yet?

You cant because he is ridiculuosly overrated and people buy into his reputation.

1. First of all, i dont care what anyone tells me about hendrix, i formed my own opinion when someone gave me one of his cds.

Second who cares what the public thinks, they are told what to like and sell their opinions, and desires to mtv and other big companies that market "cool"

2. Nobody ever said he was the best their ever was, i dont think a best guitarist exsists everyone is an individual and have their strong ad weak points, jimi's songs arnt the best in the world either i consider blue skies by the allmans stuff just as good as jimi's stuff, and cream, and zeppelin, evven the friggen rolling stone and the steve miller band


You cant because he is ridiculuosly overrated and people buy into his reputation.

why do you care so much what other peope like

if any onelistens to a band for their reputation i wouldnt even take their opinion into mind, but if some one listens to and truely enjoys hendrixs stuff, good for them, do you think these people pretend to like hendrix?



It goes like this...
a guy thinks this to himself... "hey if all the guitarists think this dude is a guitar god then he must be." then he listens to the songs. Then somebody asks "hey did you like jimi hendrix?" here he can say yes or no.

why do you ccare about people like this opnion's?


if he says no and explains why he thinks he is crap people call him stupid.

thats just alittle off right there its more like this

1. do you jimi hendrix?
2. no
1. oh (changes subject)

and like this

1. do you like jimi hendrix
2. no i think that jimi hendrix is the most overrated guitarist, i have more talent in my left toe and you are a sell out for liking him
1.your stupid

You could say that Jimi has a monopoly on the guitaring community and I dont like it. It is like Microsoft.

Microsoft pushes hard to make people buy Microsoft products otherwise they are disadvantaged.

Jimi Hendrix fans pushes hard to make people listen to his music. If you havent listened you are ignorant. If you dont like it and explain your reasons you are ignorant. and if you do like it you are accepted by the guitaring community and you tell everyone else how good Jimi is.

i dont know where your getting this stuff

people in computer forums hate M$, how are hendrix fans at a dsadvantage by not "pushing" his music

that last state ment you made really didnt make sense i suggest a revise

The point is once again that... He might be good but he is not a God. stop telling me he is a god unless you can give me a good reason why he is. I think you have overrated the hell out of him so I am just going to ignore it if it is the same old **** story.

The guitar religion is that of polythestic beleives, no one said jimi hendrix is the devine guitar god(except maybe you) but he is one of them, in fact their are many, in the 70s people were writing clapton is god on buildings, people say page is god, via, rhodes al different people who were great at guitar are considered guitar gods!

i hope you ignore this and dont reply cause you replies are stupid,

example


Quote:
Originally Posted by Franklins Tower
"It always helps when you are making such bold statements about things such as what johnboy and starcraft have up above, to have some knowledge of what you are talking about, that way it saves yourself from sounding silly."

I am not stupid... YOU are stupid...

[xxjohnboy]

I enjoy a good argument. I noticed that some people kept telling others to play more like Jimi Hendrix which i think is bad advice because I dont think his stuff is something to aspire to these days.

I dont want to hear more jimi style players because i think alot of what makes Jimi's music good is his reputation as a great guitarist. Since you are not Jimi and dont have a worldwide reputation as a guitar god the same type of song will not be successful for you. I want guitarists to learn styles that i like so I can hopefully hear an awesome band that one of you guys play in one day instead of hearing you trying to emulate Jimi's dated style and sound.

I do care about somebody elses opinion. Other peoples opinions are very important. I thought a big debate on why Jimi was overrated might help shed some light on why he is good but instead people just change the topic to 'xxjohnboy is stupid'

Everyone can learn something from listening to his music. But imho he is overrated. He has some good points but the songs overall are pretty crap imho. ALot of the crappiness comes from production but the fact is that production is VERY important in a song.

[muchavo]

what do you mean by production?

have you ever actually listened to hendrix?

with an open mind?

his live material?

[StarCraft]

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMM MMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEE


Franklin...did you insult me? i couldn't tell....cuz if you did....yous better get ready for beat down...

i'm not saying jimi is over or underrated...i'm just saying..stop being stupid and enjoy the music...if you can't then move on to some other artist...

[muchavo]

i'm not saying jimi is over or underrated...i'm just saying..stop being stupid and enjoy the music...if you can't then move on to some other artist...

cpuldnt have said it better

johnyboy if you care so much about being popular why are you at this forum

[xxjohnboy]

yer im starting to get a bit over this argument. I dont think i have any of his live stuff. ill admit that some of his songs start to grow on you if you are chilling out with some wacky tabacci.

I was listening to Jimi and i do understand (at least a little bit) why his music is good. His music creates a mood that i like but... hmmm have a listen to a whole bunch of jimi songs on your nice big speakers and then afterwards listen to Figured You Out by Nickelback. Listen to the fullness of it and the presence of it compared to Jimi. Jimi just doesn't compare. It makes you want to jump around your room and it makes you feel good. Jimi is more of a chillin-with-the-weed song that you just sit back, relax and listen to. You feel good in a less energetic way. He certainly has a unique style but i just think that there are lots and lots and lots of better songs than his.

One of the best things i think Jimi did to make his music legendary was to die. Same as Nirvana with Kurt Cobain. They were good before they died but dying just gets people talking about you and listening to your music. I have mentioned before ( i was defending pop music and techno music i think) that if you listen to a song enough you will find something about it that makes it good 99.9% of the time. If it wasnt for the fact that there are so many people vouching for him i never would have given him a second listen. Which is why I say if a similar song came out today without that reputation to make people listen to it closely and give it a chance I dont think it would be successful. Almost everyone who first listened to Jimi (in recent times) would have heard him already knowing he is supposed to be good (because everyone keeps saying so) so they give him a good proper listen. On top of that they usually have people explaining exactly what it is about the songs that is good (the feel and the creativity or where it does this and this or whatever) so people even know what they are looking for.

His reputation as a guitar god rather than his guitar talent is the biggest reason why his music is successful imho opinion. Which is why i say he is overrated.

[L_Z_NuT]

I simply don't understand how some people judge great musicians like hendrix, music is an art, expressing your feelings in a way that easy for you or just comfortable. Maybe instead of saying things like "ohh he's not that good compared to present music standards". Well he's not around, but if he was he would probably knock your socks off with music that gives you goosebumps ( love that feeling ) and makes you feel something besides being envious of someone elses talent and talking trash about them cause you can't convey such feeling and passion for what you are playing. I'd like to hear some of you play your own versions of some of his songs and covers with half the feeling he did. You'd probably want to save some money though, for a lot of hard drugs, lets face it drugs and alcohol was Jimi's rocket fuel, helping all of his feelings take flight in an unstable rocket cutting to the right just wating to blow. As an artist with great musical abilities and passion Jimi was the Pablo Picasso of music, and instead of dismissing him and calling him OVERRRATED, try LEARNING from him.

[Metallicka]

Wow this thread is banging on a bit :)

In reply to the very first post. Being able to play 16th's at 150bpm means you are doing well technically after a year.

There are alot of good and bad points in this thread.

First the speed vs feel subject. I totally agree with those that said fast is nothing without slow and vice versa.

Why do some people say playing fast is un-emotional? I understand that they don't like people who play fast all the time but they cannot say it has no emotion. Classical music is the most emotional and the two most popular and greatest of their instruments are the violin and piano. They often play extremely fast passages which are the most moving of all but they usually come after a slow passage. If they only played extremely fast you'd get bored after a while because your brain can't digest it all but if they played slow all the time you'd get bored also because you'd feel it wasn't getting anywhere. Speed in the right places excites and emotes.

I don't consider myself a fan of shred but my favourite guitarists are considered shredders by most people. My favourite guitarist is RR. He could shred his ass off but that wasn't the point. He could also play sweet music too (check out the lead on goodbye to romance, tonight etc..). An example of how fast can be emotional and melodic is the solo on 'You looking at me, looking at you'.

Music is about phrasing not speed. It's how you phrase things that make you stand out and makes the listener feel. We could all play for 10 hours a day and shred like Yngwie but if we all play the same things what's the point? We could also all play some slow blues and play all the same licks they've been playing for decades but we'd all sound the same unless we close our eyes and let our soul do the phrasing.

One of the reasons RR is now my guitar god is his phrasing. In the 2nd solo of Mr Crowley and the solo of Crazy Train he uses a lick which consists of the exact same set of about 12 notes played in the same order both at a fast pace yet the phrasing is so different you don't know until you see the tab. Then they are so different you find it takes you a long time to get the phrasing right and then you can't do the other one anymore. That is an example of how you can do the same thing differently using soul. That is what you should be working on and not how fast you can play those notes. They say 16th's at 120bpm is as fast as you'll ever need.

I'm not a fan of Hendrix. I've given him a go and he's just not for me. His songs are mostly weak with bits and bobs of good stuff. You can't say he's overrated though as it's the effect he had on music that makes him a legend and not his actual music.

I don't know why people bother to argue about things like this. People rarely change their mind. We should all rejoice in the fact that we like music rather than pick on each others tastes. Taste in music is an extremely unique thing and you should respect each person as an individual whether they like the Cheeky Girls or Beethoven.

People don't need to agree just understand.

[Ghost]

This is by far the dumbest thread I've ever seen on this forum. The guy who started it probably never even came back to check on it.

In the spirit of the thread: I can play whole notes at 40bpm and I'm decent, it's not the speed or the number of notes you can play, it's making every note count.

As for the Hendrix being overrated part: You think Hendrix is overrated? How many people have called YOU a guitar god? How many of your albums went gold? If one of those answers is 0, then your skill level is far to low to judge someone like Jimi Hendrix.

Thanks all, and have a safe and interesting friday night! :cool:

[Metallicka]

So getting the approval of others and selling records makes you a god now :)

[Ghost]

So getting the approval of others and selling records makes you a god now :)

Haha, I knew someone would say that...but the fact is, Jimi has been dead for over 36 years, and people still talk about him today, and some consider him the most influencial guitar player of all time.

Do you think any of the people who say Hendrix is overrated will be remembered 30 years after their death by millions of people? :cool:

[muchavo]

i think xxjonyboy understands now

he is right
it not something that will give you energy

hendrix is more like
a flowing energy of rythemec melodies and either you dig it or you dont

one of the things that i respect about jimi doesnt apply to only guitar but musi cin it entirety

he had a great sense of music, he could keep time extremely well

i dont know about what people said about, if you sing some thing to him he could play it, or every note he played he ment it to be that way or any of that, who know i never met the guy

maybe that true maybe its not but what is true and what you can hear in his music is he had excellent time, he played to the drums the bassist just ginda layd down the groove and jimi and mitch jammed

not only did he keep a good sense of time like that but, also in the way that he good be playing rythem, stop and play lead right away and then switch back to rythem, so he was playin lead and rythem at the same time its nuts

the only thing going through his mind was the music , and thats how i want to be all the time, this has happened a few times and its just like wow

its like your mind isnt on and your just a vessal of the music

if you want to judge hendrix listen to

little wing
and
MACHINE GUN

then talk to me

[Ghost]

I think it's not a matter of judging... he's a great guitar player, period, you can't take that away from him.

Now if you don't like his music, that's just fine, it's your personnal taste!

Muchavo explained the quote from SRV in my sig very well, Jimi played music, not guitar :cool:

[I'm M@]

hendrix is overrated. it is amazing to see how no matter how much you deny it, people are very happy to follow the crowd. Following the crowd is alot of fun guys! :) I do it all the time. But sometimes the crowd gets worked into a frenzy and is stupid. And then people die and become legendary.
I could make a better song than hendrix if i shoved my guitar up my bum and smashed it on the drumkit. HAHAHAH!!

nah not really. But I do skip Hendrix songs whenever they come on my playlist coz in 2004 I got about 100000000000000000 better songs to listen to.

Me personally, i dont like hendrix..... sorry if im offending ne one but i cant help it if i just dont like him.... BUT!! Hendrix was a great guitarist, he may not have been the fastest but like about 100 of u said speen doesnt matter. Hendrix was famouse for the amount of soul and pride he put into his work, and i respect that a lot more then i respect Malmsteens shredding.

[poptartsaregood]

some people just shouldnt play guitar.....you are definetly one of them for posting such an idiotic thread. Music and being 'good' in general isnt about how fast you can play incoherent chromatic runs *******.

[oddityisbliss]

Dudes..... Give each other a break....everybody has their own opinion.......

Peace and love folks.....that's what it's all about.

[GuitarMonky55]

how in the world did this old thread get revived?

so much nastiness and so much wrong here...bad times :cry:

[muchavo]

poptarts are good basically wanted to repeat what every one said in the aurgument month ago in a negitive way

why i dont know?