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bukena
12-31-2001, 06:13 PM
I hear people talk about suspended chords and I have no idea of what on earth this is... can someone explain this to me?

Krieselman13
12-31-2001, 08:02 PM
Dude, your in the wrong forum. No I dont have any ideawhat suspended chords are.

The Fury
01-01-2002, 07:45 AM
Am I missing something here? What does it really matter what forum its posted in, as long as its not something stupid like puting it in the comments and suggestions? Obviously it should be in the chords forum but really its too late now to be moaning about it.

Anyway..............Suspended chords.

These chords come in two kinds, a sus2 and a sus4. The numbers refer to the 2nd and 4th notes of the scale, so for an Asus2 the note would be a B.
This might help, www.cyberfret.com/chords/library/index.php

Learning scales and chord construction might help.
www.cyberfret.com/theory/index.php

bukena
01-01-2002, 06:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bukena
[B]I hear people talk about suspended chords and I have no idea of what on earth this is... can someone explain this to me? Ok folks, I realized that I was at the wrong forum, but this was my first time in... don't have a cow... anyway, thanks Fury for pointing me in right direction.

Catfish
05-02-2004, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by The Fury
These chords come in two kinds, a sus2 and a sus4. The numbers refer to the 2nd and 4th notes of the scale, so for an Asus2 the note would be a B.

I just read the first bit of scale theory with the WW1/2WWW1/2 rule (also learnt that from the reading music section). When you said that the numbers denote the notes on the scale, How does this apply to the Dsus2 chord? The overall sound of the chord is a D so how does F (actually F# in the D major scale) become involved?

EDIT: Just noticed you said Asus2 the note is B, so for Dsus the note would be E not F#. But how is E involved with the Dsus2 chord?

I was under the impression the number meant which fret to play it on but I was sorely wrong after doing a search on the forum.

I'm trying to work out which Esus4 chord to play for a song. It is a high chord, higher than E major (022100) and B minor (X24432). The chord library has 022200 for Esus4 but this is too low. The only other Esus4 I can work out is X799,10,X using the movable chord examples from the chord library.

ianb
05-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Basic Chords Major and Minor are made up of the 1st 3rd and 5th notes of theirs scale.
So D Major Chord contains D, F#, A
D Minor Chord contains D, F, A

these notes can be repeated or played from more than one octave, or in any order (The named note e.g. D is usually the lowest note played but this is note an absolute requirement, look up chord inversions).

The only note that is different between Major and Minor is the 3rd (which is flattened in the Minor chord.


A Supsended chord is one where the 3rd is replaced by either the 4th (sus4 or the 2nd sus2, this means that the chord is neither Major nor Minor until the suspension is resolved by putting the 3rd back into the chord.

A good example of the Sus4 to Major resolution is Pinball Wizard by The Who and an example of a sus4 to minor resolution is found at the start of Behind Blue Eyes also by The Who.

Catfish
05-03-2004, 08:25 AM
Ah goodo. So the 3rd note in the particular major or minor scale chord is substituted for either the 2nd (sus2) or the 4th (sus4) note of that scale.

Now to work out where I want to play this sus4 chord...

*plink plink* (<-- that is the sound of plucking on a guitar)

PS: Was also wondering what the "9th added" chords were, but it looks like it is the same sort of thing after examining the C major chord and C major "9th added" chord.

ianb
05-03-2004, 08:32 AM
-5-
-5-
-4-
-2-
---
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Maybe using a Dsus4 shape will solve your problem?

ianb
05-03-2004, 08:49 AM
normally the notes included in a chord are added as either major or minor thirds

e.g. 1,3,5,7 or 1,3,5,b7
when you get to the end of the octave you just keep counting so the 2,4 and 6 come out as the 9,11 and 13 th notes of the scale.

The 7th chords are the trickiest to explain.
a C7 for instance contains C(1), E(3), G(5) and Bb(b7)
which is known as a dominant seventh chord.
If it contained a B instead it would be named as a CMajor7

A C9 would contain a 1,3,5,b7,9
A Cmaj9 would contain 1,3,5,7,9.
If the word add is used it implies that the sequence is incomplete
so a Cadd9 is a C(1), E(3), G(5), D(9).


-0- E -3- G
-3- D -3- D
-0- G or -0- G
-2- E -2- E
-3- C -3- C
--- ---

Catfish
05-03-2004, 10:25 AM
This Esus4 is up around the 6th fret at least as I have a DVD of him playing it live and he slides his hand up there but you dont get a clean angle of his hand. The closest I can concoct is XX7900 which is EABE though I'm still not sure about it, as it looks like he uses 3 fingers for it, although he could be muting strings with one (it kinda looks like he is doing a barred chord but I dont think it would be)

X799,10,X is possibly it too. Might have to fire the DVD up tomorrow and have a listen.

ianb
05-03-2004, 10:32 AM
-7-- B
-10- A
-9-- E
-9-- B
-7-- E
-x--

Barre Asus4 shape at the 7th Fret?

Catfish
05-03-2004, 04:40 PM
It's very painfuil to perform. Will have to stretch my hand into it. Thanks for the education but.