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Val Halen
01-01-2004, 11:54 PM
Is good old rock n roll dead, dying? I mean mainstream rock, not underground stuff. Is guitar music a thing of the past, cliched, done?
Why have we had so little new good intelligent fresh bands out there? Nowadays it's all about PCA(power chord abuse). What do you guys think?

Merletto
01-01-2004, 11:57 PM
Sure there are good bands, you just have to make your way through all the **** to find them.

god_in_training
01-02-2004, 12:30 AM
I hate the PCA too. A lot of bands are keeping guitar playig alive. Like Black Label Society in which Zakk tears up the frets on his gibson. Any time a band has a guitar solo in their song it shows they have some talent. Unlike the PCA people who just bang out the same old chord progressions and then thats it..thats the song.

kobashii
01-02-2004, 01:26 AM
All the ppl that think they are better guitarists than the mainstream bands today should get out there and show them up. :P

imikeyi
01-02-2004, 01:30 AM
hmm i think its just sleeping :)

BassTallica
01-02-2004, 02:16 AM
rock is like the duke.. not dead.. frozen and when he wakes up hes gonan be pissed.. how pissed you say... well ya ever take a cold shower?? well mutiply that by 15 THATS how mad its gonan be!!

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Mr B
01-02-2004, 05:48 PM
it's not dead, come and see any live band in Belfast (except Snow Patrol, who are cack) and tell me rock n roll is dead!!!!!!

wild_axeman
01-02-2004, 06:21 PM
I have no problem with the power chords.
I just think there should be solos and the singers nowdays should all just die.

Until that happens then it is dead.

CeeBeeGeeBee
01-02-2004, 08:50 PM
Queens of the Stone Age, and The Strokes. Certainly not dead.

Mr B
01-03-2004, 09:24 AM
well, QOTSA anyway.

rbehr
01-03-2004, 01:17 PM
its gonan be awesome its gonan.

I am gonan the barberian!

lol boys have gonans

Hah.... i love that

st_anger8
01-11-2004, 09:27 AM
rock is certainly not dead. we are still in a lapse waiting for real hard rock to return, and it will. if you dont like it, do something about it. pick up your guitar, start a band and change the world.

the darkness are doing classic **** rock brilliant right now, check them out.

if intelligent rock is what you want, look no furthur than muse, pearl jam, qotsa, and loads of new bands bubbling in the British underground. rock aint dead, but because at this point it's all been done, it has to take time away and evolve into something new, fresh and awesome. it's been evolving and changing for 50 odd years, so what we are going through now is a number of different styles and experiments untill something new is concieved.

alternativly, you could be a realist and realise that people said the same stuff as us about the beatles and the rolling stones, about led zep, about gnr and MetallicA. maybe we are all just living in the past and rock aint dead, its just changed and we dont like it. in ten years maybe the good charlotte fans will be sitting doing what we're doing now, complaining about the new music and thinking bout the old days when great bands like blink 182 and sum 41 ruled music. it's sad but it may be true.

Mr B
01-11-2004, 01:31 PM
I think that, to be fair, rock music was great, but lately it is stagnant, all the musical innovation can be found in other genres. we await the return of clever rock music though, or a new approach to rock.

Jools
01-11-2004, 01:42 PM
Rock is not dead. Look in your TV. Everyone wants to be a rock star, even the disco, techno, rappers and whatever else... I mean come on, when you see a hip hop video and you see the rapper dude stage diving into the crowd with a full band behind him that's gotta show something.

There are bands, most of them are quite old but they still kick ass though undoubtadly they are coming to their end.

crimsonedge36
01-11-2004, 06:53 PM
About this power chord abuse. Just as some FYI, alot of classic rock has power chords in it. AC/DC is one. And as for this "new crap" my answer is this. Godsmack, Pushmonkey, AFI, Chevelle, CKY, Creed, and 311. There are many others, but just because they have alot of power chords in their songs, doesn't mean their solo's wont blow the old stuff out of the water.

Also, if you think that people like system of a down or slipknot (I dont like slipknot, but they have true talent) suck or have no talent, then please, look at these tabs and say that there is no talent. System of a down-Science (easy but it closely resembles an "old rock" feel and Slipknot-Wait and Bleed. Of course there are power chords in the song, but why does it matter? Its pure talent, just because a tuning is different doesn't mean its complete crap, it just brings out a different sound that could not be achieved with standard or dropped standard tuning.

Good day.

god_in_training
01-11-2004, 07:44 PM
Ok I was being a hypocrite when I said something about the power chord abuse cause I use a lot of them too but Jesus Christ its not like anyone said that power chords suck. Just let it rest.

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BassTallica
01-12-2004, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by st_anger8
rock is certainly not dead. we are still in a lapse waiting for real hard rock to return, and it will. if you dont like it, do something about it. pick up your guitar, start a band and change the world.

the darkness are doing classic **** rock brilliant right now, check them out.

if intelligent rock is what you want, look no furthur than muse, pearl jam, qotsa, and loads of new bands bubbling in the British underground. rock aint dead, but because at this point it's all been done, it has to take time away and evolve into something new, fresh and awesome. it's been evolving and changing for 50 odd years, so what we are going through now is a number of different styles and experiments untill something new is concieved.

alternativly, you could be a realist and realise that people said the same stuff as us about the beatles and the rolling stones, about led zep, about gnr and MetallicA. maybe we are all just living in the past and rock aint dead, its just changed and we dont like it. in ten years maybe the good charlotte fans will be sitting doing what we're doing now, complaining about the new music and thinking bout the old days when great bands like blink 182 and sum 41 ruled music. it's sad but it may be true.

amen brother

@god in train... relaxe man.. lifes to short.. smile be happy

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wild_axeman
01-12-2004, 03:50 AM
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st_anger8
01-12-2004, 12:45 PM
having just re-read what i posted, i would like to change the last paragraph in my earlier post, it's way to pessemistic, and i like to think of myself as an optimist, even if it didnt come through. i think that actually there have always been 'proper' musicians and then entertainers, and groups like blink 182 and gc are out there purely for entertainment. i think that these days we have to make our way through all the bull**** to find decent, forward thinking music untill something arrives that blows us all away. it has to happen, it's coming. it could even be one of us.

on the subject of decent new rock, a lot of you obviously haven't heard of a band called muse. i bring them up because they are pretty much everything you guys seem to be looking for right now. they are intelligent, forward thinkers,(although not too prog) who produce music of a great technical standard and with great emotion. if you are able too, try and get hold of a copy of their new album, absolution. total guitar called it album of the year and it was unparraleld in vision and power by any album of 2003. they are huge here in the uk and i think they just finished a tour of australia, but im not sure about the us. if you can check them out.

if you wanna download any of their stuff, try

hysteria
new born
plug in baby
stockholm syndrome
time is running out
feeling fine
thoughts of a dying atheist

sorry to go on like that but they do rock:D

Oleleeloo
03-31-2004, 06:42 AM
I hate most MTV bands. I mean wheres the solos, and wheres the soul. Avril LAvinge - Fuel. Is the guitarist drunk or something?

jimihendrix
03-31-2004, 07:42 AM
Rock is dead (asleep?), why???????
cause after a while it got predictable and boring.
There has to be made new more creative rock!!!!!!!!!!!

EndOn9
03-31-2004, 10:08 AM
Heh, people ALWAYS say that everything has been done. Well, untill someone comes along and does something new and then everyone says. Right, NOW everything has been done. Well, untill........

It ain't dead. I wouldn't even say it was dead in the mainstream. Muse and QOTSA have been mentioned. Even the Darkness are good for a laugh.
There's plenty of decent underground bands too. You do have to wade through piles of crap but the only excuse you can possibly give for not doing it anyway is lazyness.

Get wading! :p

beautiful_dae
03-31-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by st_anger8
i think that actually there have always been 'proper' musicians and then entertainers, and groups like blink 182 and gc are out there purely for entertainment.

Just like WWE. All fake and purely for entertainment. And rock is definitely not dead. Soon all the nu metal and pop punk crap will be dying. Look at their popularity, it is going down. Guitar solos and big hairs will rule the music industry again.

unfy
03-31-2004, 11:53 PM
Manson said it best at the peak of his career...

"Rock is dead."

BassTallica
04-01-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by unfy
Manson said it best at the peak of his career...

"Rock is dead."

but to whos standards?

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toast
04-01-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by beautiful_dae
big hairs will rule the music industry again.
I got one final Caesar cut right before first day of school (probably....7months back) and haven't cut it since :D Told myself I wasn't gonna cut my hair atleast till the end of the school year. I plan on growing it out some more :D

Can't wait till I get a new electric so i don't have to use this one w/o the amp (somethin' happened AGAIN...pos)

wild_axeman
04-01-2004, 01:14 AM
Manson said it best at the peak of his career...

"Rock is dead."Manson is dead.

wild_axeman
04-01-2004, 01:16 AM
Even the Darkness are good for a laugh.
GnR.....now there's a joke!

FireJin3
04-01-2004, 08:06 PM
Personally I'm just waiting for a Completely different, unique, inteligent, heavy, tlanted band which simply will show a new face in rock, I aint searching for the old stuff nor the new stuff, I'm looking for something awesome that isn't saturated and easy as hell as all the stuff today.

StarCraft
04-01-2004, 08:12 PM
havn't people been saying rock is dieing, since like the 70's.

anyway...i'm interested in this new hardcore scene thats arrising.

Lamb Of God
Shadows Fall
Killswitch Engage
Unearth

these bands are producing some good stuff... they take all the best things about metal, and look to the future.

aside from that...theres not much going on out there.

P.S. the vocals might scare some people away at first...but its good stuff...Especially Lamb Of God.

ianb
04-01-2004, 08:28 PM
They have been saying that rock n roll is dead since Buddy Holly died.

It just mutates when people get fed up of the current formulae.

Ark
04-01-2004, 08:51 PM
hopefully my band will cahnge the way the music is now...

beautiful_dae
04-01-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by wild_axeman
GnR.....now there's a joke!

Hey... what do ya mean? :)

Rock will never be dead. Cause there's people like us keeping it alive. And i got a feeling that records company will pump in more money for rock after they saw the darkness. Move aside punks and nu metal crap!

ibleedmarshall
04-01-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by StarCraft
havn't people been saying rock is dieing, since like the 70's.

anyway...i'm interested in this new hardcore scene thats arrising.

Lamb Of God
Shadows Fall
Killswitch Engage
Unearth

these bands are producing some good stuff... they take all the best things about metal, and look to the future.

aside from that...theres not much going on out there.

P.S. the vocals might scare some people away at first...but its good stuff...Especially Lamb Of God.

LoG and SF are both excellent metal bands. Check out some Black Label Society, it may not be the hardest to play riffs... but tell me the doom crew inc doesn't take you on a Blessed Hellride (cheesy, I know)...

StarCraft
04-01-2004, 10:32 PM
i have all bls albums...zakk is the man.

but the bands i mention before...they are kinda doing something a little new...you know...something fresh...keeping the scene alive.

bls is the **** too, keeps the classic stuff alive

ibleedmarshall
04-01-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by StarCraft
i have all bls albums...zakk is the man.

but the bands i mention before...they are kinda doing something a little new...you know...something fresh...keeping the scene alive.

bls is the **** too, keeps the classic stuff alive

amen to that, keep on Bleedin' Black Label!

Do you have Pride and Glory and Book of Shadows?

I can't wait for 4/20 to pick up Hangover Music Vol. 6

fizz
04-02-2004, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Val Halen
Is good old rock n roll dead, dying? I mean mainstream rock, not underground stuff. Is guitar music a thing of the past, cliched, done?
Why have we had so little new good intelligent fresh bands out there? Nowadays it's all about PCA(power chord abuse). What do you guys think?

Yes.

LONG LIVE METAL!!!!

\m/ n all that.

pablo145
04-02-2004, 09:56 AM
i quote this guy beautiful_dae:
"Rock will never be dead. Cause there's people like us keeping it alive. And i got a feeling that records company will pump in more money for rock after they saw the darkness. Move aside punks and nu metal crap!"

first you're right with the darkness, i believe in a thing called love....no, now really i believe that they can change this disgusting hip-hop-rap-r&b crap
and second, you better believe that rock 'n roll aint dead, remember that music is a thing of stages, things change every couple of years or decades, and we can only hope that some new band (or why not, our band) will change all this awful thing we have to put up 24-7 in the radio and TV
rock will never be dead, we have to make sure of this
get out there, play what you really like, record kick-ass rock albums,...please dont try to be like linkin park or something and "just put a little rap into rock"..people, it sucks, we all know it
anyway, just keep in mind what this guy said.."rock will never be dead, cause theres people like us keeping it alive..."

EndOn9
04-02-2004, 12:59 PM
Heh, in a few years from now you'll all be whining about all these fabricated, awful Darkness clone bands that will have popped up. Bit like in the 80's. :D

Who ever said that you don't get solo's n' decent musicianmanship anymore? Only someone who can't be arsed to look a little deeper for some decent bands. They are there, they've always been there! Hopefully, they'll never "make it". Becoming huge mega-stars always seems to turn out for the worse.

beautiful_dae
04-05-2004, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by EndOn9
Heh, in a few years from now you'll all be whining about all these fabricated, awful Darkness clone bands that will have popped up. Bit like in the 80's. :D

Who ever said that you don't get solo's n' decent musicianmanship anymore? Only someone who can't be arsed to look a little deeper for some decent bands. They are there, they've always been there! Hopefully, they'll never "make it". Becoming huge mega-stars always seems to turn out for the worse.

It is the coporate world out there. Once you sign on a label company, you are tied. They will ask you to play music that appeal to the masses. And you can play what you likes, drugs come in and at the next movement, you're dead. I hate MTV! I don't know why they have all these stupid programmes. Because of MTV there is rap, hip hop, nu metal and pop punk. Boycott MTV!

BassTallica
04-05-2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by fizz
Yes.

LONG LIVE METAL!!!!

\m/ n all that.

mmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeettttttttttaaaaaaaalllllllllllll

/m/_

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wild_axeman
04-05-2004, 04:25 AM
Most metal ...meh.....I whip out my d*ck an whiz on most metal! :D

What I'm sick of is all of the emulated vocals in metal,hair metal,nu metal,whiney pop punk,grunge and so on and so forth.

I respect metal to a point as far as their playing goes but why in the f*ck can't they find decent singers????

That's why rock is superior to metal.
People used to sing!!!!!!!!

Now they all emulate eachother's emulated voices and it's always like one tone throughout the song with no originality and no range.

ROCK ISN'T DEAD,SINGERS ARE !!!!!!

Seriously Axl Rose and Joe Elliot can go f**k eachother as can Eddy Vedder and Nickel Back and that EVERLAST a$$clown.And so can Bruce Dickinson and Dio and Chris Cornell.And so can Blink 182 and Simple Plan.

"Ohhh LET THERE BE ROCK"!!!!

unfy
04-05-2004, 04:06 PM
I have to agree with Axeman on this one. There aren't too many oustanding vocalist in either genre. While I am a fan of death metal and all of its cronies, I have to admit that some bands have no business emulating those vocals. What especially bothers me are the bands that use processors to get those low-end growls.

ibleedmarshall
04-05-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by BassTallica
mmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeettttttttttaaaaaaaalllllllllllll

/m/_

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*bangs head, puts horns in the air

Jamezo
04-06-2004, 01:08 AM
or whatever the hell "/m/_" is! :D

beautiful_dae
04-06-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by wild_axeman

"Ohhh LET THERE BE ROCK"!!!!

And God says," It was good."

Omnislash42
04-06-2004, 07:31 AM
Rock isnt really dead, but theres not many good bands out there. I know every local area has the awesome local bands, here theres a jazz rock group that blow everyone out of the water as they solo continuously, but mainstream rock isnt looking too great.

The world got rock because it was awesome and they were tired of blues. Hair metal changed the scene. After the domination of hair metal, people got tired of it and started listening to grunge and now we have weak 'punk' and pop. People will want something new, but i havent seen a mainstream ish band that will be able to change things, at least not in any time soon.

st_anger8
04-09-2004, 09:32 AM
dont worry guys, me and my boys are working on the problem as we speak (or type)...;)

MetalJ88
04-21-2004, 11:56 PM
Now, I know that the old punk, the real punk, was full of power chords, but the melodies were diverse. PCA and just power chords are different. Yes, I would definitely say all bands use power chords, but bands like Good Charlotte, and so on use them too much.

wild_axeman
04-22-2004, 02:23 AM
I don't think anyone uses them too much.I just think Bands like Good Charlotte are wimpy and put out a bunch of crappy music.But it beats Britney Spears.

Jamezo
04-22-2004, 05:31 AM
at least britney doesn't pretend to be a real band. I would rather watch britney dance around semi-naked and lip sync than watch good charlotte flail about any day.

Franklins Tower
04-22-2004, 04:25 PM
The whole industry is an abomination. It's like the "entertainment industry". It's been in decline for years, total deterioration of musical aesthetic values. Even if people have aesthetic values it is very hard to make a living at that. When they first starting recording music, music was an art or it was something that people did to ease there burdens, get together and have a good time to ENJOY. It was a real thing. When they started recording blues and country music, it was very pure and there were so many individual styles. In old-time music there is no one style. But through the years the record companies started noticing that "this" sold real well, and so it's "play it like that". Give me another "that". What is "that" and who are "they"? As soon as somebody had a hit immediately there'd be someone covering it or trying to imitate it. So the whole purpose of music got turned around to "we are going to play the kind of music that sells big big big" but what is that? Thats the question, you can't bottle it and sell it on, but hey they sure are trying.

I've had my flirtation with the music industry down the years and it annoys me no end to the point where I cannot stand it really. They will always say "we are just giving the public what they want" I say a more accurate view is that they are telling the public what to want and what to like.

I truely believe that good music, great music, the music real music fans listen to musicans music in a word, would sell just as much if the promotion was there. But at the moment people cannot hear it to like it when the other crap is rammed down there neck and telling "this is cool" or "this summers band" and telling us what to like! And you ask why? Well because it's all to do with marketing and profits within multi-national companies with not one once of muscial knowlage or sense of history or basic music values that were set in stone long before "agents" and "marketing men" only worried about chasing the $ appeared and thats all it boils down to, chasing the dollar.

But then I would dig up most of the freeways and plant trees everywhere. I'm just an old hippie who plays guitar, so what would I know!?

wild_axeman
04-22-2004, 04:41 PM
They will always say "we are just giving the public what they want" I say a more accurate view is that they are telling the public what to want and what to like. There you go.

They're creating mindless,godless,immoral,consumer zombies!!!!

The perfect consumer...

INDULGE - INDULGE - INDULGE !!!!!

Like a bunch of junkies!!!!!

Franklins Tower
04-22-2004, 05:21 PM
How true that is man. I think it's a reflection of the world we now live in.

To quote Brian Wilson - "I just wasn't made for these times"

wild_axeman
04-22-2004, 05:24 PM
Freedom man - where'd it go?

I think we ate it. ;)

Franklins Tower
04-23-2004, 10:58 AM
So theres a chance we might sh*t it back out one day then!? :D But it's a good question though. Freedom is there and available more than ever but everyones spirit has gone. We know too much now and what we dont know we can find out by just the click of a button. Wheres the fun gone? Everything is too regimented and organised. The world is full of power seeking ego freaks, they are everywhere nowadays and they're not just cops like they used to be! :D

55'gibby
04-23-2004, 11:15 AM
I have made that same rant myself franklin...

I went to the record store to pick up some CD's I ordered. I had seen only a couple of different genres of music in the store, I found that really sad. even within the genres there wasn't much variety. luckily where I live there is an underground movement of musicians and music lovers that is beginning to change what is listened to in the clubs. lots more progressive type of music, just can't hear it anywhere

kirk_ham
04-24-2004, 08:15 AM
wooo!!! pssshh i think rock and metal have just re-located.....
i hear that metal is very big in germany and other crazy european countries......... so when i get a band im headin off to storm round germany and then ill probably try and come to the u.s.a and play there........ there arent many people doing the rock and roll gig anymore..... but if they did i reckon a lot of people would listen....
everybody says theres no market for that kind of music anymore but there is its just companies dont give it enough of a chance...... if they signed some decent young metal bands then i think the whole rock and roll era would come about again......
and my guitar teacher played me a few of the songs of the first album he is releasing on the record label he's on and they were really good..... i didnt expect thenm to be anything really good but they were....... some of the songs he had written and played showed really good songwriting... good riffs.....nice words not screaming....... and some really kick ass solos...... so when his band thinks of there proper title then ill tell you because i would say they are to look out for.......

sum1
04-24-2004, 03:59 PM
rock isnt dead.. just sorta in a coma.. there are some good bands out there.. as someone mentioned before you got queens of the stone age and people like that

but lets not forget rock is gonna change.. today you got bands like red hot chili peppers and incubus who make simple but yet very good sounding stuff.. and its got emotion

maybe thats what rock is gonna turn in to.. im all for the technical solos and complicated songs.. but its always nice to throw some simple stuff into the mix


you also gotta remember that there were probably ****ty old bands too.. i mean you had greats like led zepp the beatles and all those great people.. but were those the only bands??? no there other crappy bands out too.. and they just faded away and no one remembers them

with bands like queens of the stone age, red hot chili peppers, incubus, and godsmack holding it down i think rock is not dead..


but there is a lot of **** now lol and its getting ever popular


btw i mentioned godsmack cause they are good.. they have good solos, good drums and good vocals

wild_axeman
04-24-2004, 04:01 PM
Franklin's Tower wrote:

So theres a chance we might sh*t it back out one day then!?
:D I exude freedom,NO!....I excrete it!

(heh heh....p00p!)

enbals
04-25-2004, 01:51 PM
As somebody else pointed out Muse are still playing intelligent rock music.

GuitarMonky55
04-25-2004, 02:48 PM
i like this:

its easy to say popularity sucks. that way when you suck you have an excuse.

a good band will get popular. it may take time and alot of work with the shape of things today, but if its meant to be then it will happen.

what we need, is to get rid of all the labels and get back to rock and roll, like the 70s had. everyone is so concerned with being 'punk' or 'goth' or 'thug' or whatever, that they have completely ruined society in every aspect. why cant we go back to the 70s when people went to a rock concert for a good time and enjoyed the music for what it was, not what it represented?

to lead this front, we need a few real rock bands to step out and make just plain rock music.

wild_axeman
04-25-2004, 07:06 PM
what we need, is to get rid of all the labels and get back to rock and roll, like the 70s had. everyone is so concerned with being 'punk' or 'goth' or 'thug' or whatever, that they have completely ruined society in every aspect. why cant we go back to the 70s when people went to a rock concert for a good time and enjoyed the music for what it was, not what it represented?

to lead this front, we need a few real rock bands to step out and make just plain rock music.i concur
heck i never left the 70's :p

metal mania
05-01-2004, 11:54 PM
what he said about vocals is anyone else tired of hearing that growl i mean all underground heavymetal bands have it when did people decide it was bad to sing its like omg i actually understood what he said now i hate them is that what these bands think fans are thinking i mean seriosly you can still be a great HEAVYMETAL band and have good vocals:mad: :mad: :mad:
what starcraft said sorry i got carried away:p

metal mania
05-02-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by unfy
I have to agree with Axeman on this one. There aren't too many oustanding vocalist in either genre. While I am a fan of death metal and all of its cronies, I have to admit that some bands have no business emulating those vocals. What especially bothers me are the bands that use processors to get those low-end growls.

axe man took it a little to far come on some of those people do have very good voices and some for grunge would be layne staley he had a great voice along with jerr cantrell and for metal james hetfield has a pretty unique and good voice along with ozzy and zakk wylde and there are many more but dio doese have a good voice but however this underground stuff vocal wise is mostly and prodominently(sp) CRAP see my abouve post on this matter

ledguitar
05-02-2004, 08:23 PM
Real Rock n roll isnt dead but it is dying. All the rock bands are turning into pop-rock. There are no guitar solos anymore such as Stairway to Heaven's or Sweet Child o Mine. Just new stuff that sucks. So yeah it dying. And the PCA is dumb.

StarCraft
05-02-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by metal mania
what he said about vocals is anyone else tired of hearing that growl i mean all underground heavymetal bands have it when did people decide it was bad to sing its like omg i actually understood what he said now i hate them is that what these bands think fans are thinking i mean seriosly you can still be a great HEAVYMETAL band and have good vocals:mad: :mad: :mad:
what starcraft said sorry i got carried away:p

well

the bands i mention before...are good bands, plain and simple....as far as the vocals....i am sick of the neandertal/cookie monster growls..when done untastefuly....in regard to lamb of god...i really like the vocals in that band...and u can acctualy understand what he saying most of the time...if you listen....much like u can unerstand tallica's vocals if u listen closely...

when its done wrong....it sounds harrible....what i do hate...

REALLY REALLY hate....is when vocalist try to sound like demons or some ****... thats doing it improperly....deicide comes to mind....sounds so horrible...

the boys from killswitch engage can acctually sing... and shadows fall sounds like any other metal band from the early 90's.

i've learned to like the growling....cuz the music behind it...is to my liking...

i see what your saying...

i say...it is good to apreciate alice in chains like vocals...but at the same time...move on and broaden your horizons...just move on

beautiful_dae
05-03-2004, 11:25 AM
So would frank sinatra fit in metaliica?

unfy
05-03-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by beautiful_dae
So would frank sinatra fit in metaliica?

That reminds of the movie 'Dawn of The Dead,' where a Sinatra wannabe covered 'Down With The Sickness' by Disturbed. It was interesting to listen to.

sum1
05-03-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by StarCraft
well

the bands i mention before...are good bands, plain and simple....as far as the vocals....i am sick of the neandertal/cookie monster growls..when done untastefuly....in regard to lamb of god...i really like the vocals in that band...and u can acctualy understand what he saying most of the time...if you listen....much like u can unerstand tallica's vocals if u listen closely...

when its done wrong....it sounds harrible....what i do hate...

REALLY REALLY hate....is when vocalist try to sound like demons or some ****... thats doing it improperly....deicide comes to mind....sounds so horrible...

the boys from killswitch engage can acctually sing... and shadows fall sounds like any other metal band from the early 90's.

i've learned to like the growling....cuz the music behind it...is to my liking...

i see what your saying...

i say...it is good to apreciate alice in chains like vocals...but at the same time...move on and broaden your horizons...just move on

i agree 100%.. i hate that demon **** where their like "enter me satan rawr rawr rawr enter me enter me rawr rawr rawr" i mean i can stand it but when the music is pure shredding of single notes it sucks my wang


i know im a metallica freak.. but i honestly think james sang with good taste.. you can understand him but he still did the high voice thing on the first few albums... then on mop and ajaf i think his voice was perfect

st_anger8
05-04-2004, 01:08 PM
you're so right bud, Hetfields lyircs always were/are one of the best parts of 'tallics work, and he had the good taste not to just randomly scream as loads of other groups do. it really just shows a lack of care/ability in the songs when all there is is roaring.

sum1
05-04-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by st_anger8
you're so right bud, Hetfields lyircs always were/are one of the best parts of 'tallics work, and he had the good taste not to just randomly scream as loads of other groups do. it really just shows a lack of care/ability in the songs when all there is is roaring.

lol hetfield period is/was the best part of metallica.. i mean he made all the great riffs.. his vocals were kick ass.. and his lyrics were great...

to me hes just got a different way of showing emotions instead of just saying "im mad"

keano
05-05-2004, 12:43 AM
It lives, hard, heavy, catchy and with solos.
http://www.skintonline.net

beautiful_dae
05-05-2004, 08:20 AM
So James hetfield is "i'm mad" then Axl rose must be S&M.:D

Vibrato00
05-05-2004, 09:30 PM
Rock and Roll died when MTV was born...Maybe not that very day, but it died just a little bit everyday after..

BassTallica
05-06-2004, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by Vibrato00
Rock and Roll died when MTV was born...Maybe not that very day, but it died just a little bit everyday after..

well we DO know that video killed the radio star

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toast
05-08-2004, 03:46 AM
"in my mind, and in my car..."
I kinda like that song, heard it was the first song played on MTV

BassTallica
05-08-2004, 11:15 AM
"in my mind, and in my car..."
I kinda like that song, heard it was the first song played on MTV


you are correct my good sir

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backinblack
06-03-2004, 08:23 PM
Quote:
on the subject of decent new rock, a lot of you obviously haven't heard of a band called muse. i bring them up because they are pretty much everything you guys seem to be looking for right now. they are intelligent, forward thinkers,(although not too prog) who produce music of a great technical standard and with great emotion.


Muse is a great band. So is Killswitch Engage. Powerman 5000 is great as well in my opinion. I think rock isn't dead, you just have to look to find good stuff.

st_anger8
06-04-2004, 07:05 AM
wow seems like forever since i last posted here, everything looks so different! metallicka has facial hair at last!

that happens to be my quote, and i stand by it, and recommend as intelligent forward thinkers any Pearl Jam (bar Vitalogy, which you should really only try if you are a fan) the sadly deceased Queens of the Stone Age and a number of underground sources that record companies consider too different to market. if anyone wants to add to this list there are tons of great groups around, so any band you are into that fit the bill- lets hear about it. here's mine:

www.deadlogic.com; these guys are a liverpool based group and the synth/guitar player just happens to be my teacher. this is NOT a shameless plug.

sweeppicker308
06-13-2004, 05:08 PM
Rock'n'roll ain't dead we're here talkin about it aren't we that proves its still around. There's rock'n'roll bands out there its just people listen to it that much. We need those guys who can play the **** out of their guitar to quit their day jobs and bring it back. Rock'n'roll is way better then that ******* rap. Think about it you can find rock'n'roll songs everywhere and some of those songs are from the 60's. You'll still be hearing those songs 30 years from now. Think about it is rap really gonna sell a car unless your marketing to gangsters. In my book rock'n'roll ain't gonna die. People still listen to bethoven. And people will still listen to bob seger the rolling stones led zeppelin metallica and all kinds of music. Rock'n'roll ain't dead yet :cool:

BassTallica
06-13-2004, 06:12 PM
In the beginning Back in nineteen fifty-five
Man didn’t know about a rock ’n’ roll show And all that jive
The white man had the smoltz The black man had the blues
No one knew what they was gonna do But tchaikovsky had the news
He said -

"let there be light", and there was light
"let there be sound", and there was sound
"let there be drums", and there was drums
"let there be guitar", and there was guitar
"let there be rock"

And it came to pass That rock ’n’ roll was born
All across the land every rockin’ band Was blowing up a storm
The guitarman got famous The businessman got rich
And in every bar there was a super star With a seven year itch
There were fifteen million fingers Learning how to play
And you could hear the fingers picking And this is what they had to say

"let there be light"
"sound"
"drums"
"guitar"
"let there be rock"

One night in a club called `the shaking hand’
There was a ninety-two decibel rocking band
The music was good and the music was loud
And the singer turned and he said to the crowd -

"let there be rock"

and thats how it came to be

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