Any folkies/sixties holdovers here?

[mllebois]

Is anyone here stuck in the sixties/seventies? My
"pause" button is stuck at about 1972, although I enjoyed Punk, all the disco in the mid-70's nearly killed me. I see that there are a lot of metal fans, is there anyone else around like me? I'm thinking the first Woodstock, Joni Mitchell,CSNY, Beatles, etc etc.

[55'gibby]

yep I'm old enough to have lived it... I've been playing for 35 years, I play mostly jazz/blues now, but still play lots of old stuff. heck even my guitars are old. I'm not much of a metal head, did see black sabbath in concert tho. not really a folk music type of guy either, but can play a bout a half dozen neil young songs. I guess I'm outta step around here, but I still hang out.

[The Fury]

I have Sgt. Peppers - does that count, lol.

I like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks - that kind of thing - but I think my favorite band from that era would be The Small Faces.

My mum tries to get me to listen to people like Frank Zappa, Rory Gallagher and Blodwyn Pig - some of her idols she saw as a young'un.

I think I'm in the minority aswell, not being a fan of metal.

[clickhoward]

There must be more of us than we think. I'm not a big fan of metal either - though some bands like Rage Against the Machine really impress me. Ive noticed Fury that youre into Stone Roses. I love them too (got evertyhing, which isnt much, that was brought out). And its kind of interesting cause thier sound, though conditioned to their time, is definitely 60's. You must have similar taste cause I really dig The Small Faces and I reckon when Steve Marriot left and the Faces were formed it just wasnt the same thing. The day I went to see Paul Weller in London Steve Marriot died in a fire (smoking in bed I think). Paul Weller and his band played Tin Soldier and jammed on it for 10 minutes or so. Kicked ass! Paul Weller somehow fits that frame as well. Dont know if youve checked out his stuff.

The 60's. I love all that stuff. Huge fan of Dylan and all of the music he spawned. Been listening to Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young a lot lately. You never get tired of good music. I think from every era (except maybe early 80's) had HEAPS of talent.

As far as playing goes. If it wasnt for Dylan and Young, and the likes I might have never picked up a guitar. Perfect music for just guitar and voice - if youve got the voice - I havent...

[The Fury]

Yeah, The Stone Roses were definately sixties inspired, songs like Waterfall, Sugar Spun Sister, Mersey Paradise and Going Down.

I really like Paul Weller as well, I only really know the Jam songs and his solo work, which has that sixties feel to it, I've only seen him live once, just when I was first getting into him so I didn't really know all that many songs back then. Another modern band that comes to mind is Ocean Colour Scene, thay are very reminiscent of the Small Faces, in fact they used to do some Small Faces songs live like Song Of A Baker.

[clickhoward]

Yeah, Ocean Colour Scene are great. I also like Primal Scream - though their influences are pretty wide spread - there is a lot of 60's influence there too. On one album they really sounded like the stones in early 70's.

I guess everyone has their opinion about Beatles albums. Ive been listening to them all my life - literally (family of fanatics). If theres one album, in my opinion, of theirs that is overataed, way overrated - to me its Sgt Peppers. Revolver and Rubber Soul are more telling - though the latter is so heavily influenced by Dylan. A lot of people have put Sgt Peppers on a pedastel, saying its the most infulential blah blah blah. Listen to the music of the mid 60's and then listen to what Dylan did with songs Like a Rolling Stone and the album Blonde on Blonde. When you put this into its time frame its mindblowing (hard to imagine that time frame now, because everythig since has been influenced by these albums). As for Sgt Peppers (Mcartney's brainchild) it doesnt come close... Having said that, the Beatles were amazing, no doubt. I also love the White Album and Abbey Rd. I would recomend those above peppers any day.

My 2 cents on the Beatles. What do you guys think?

[mllebois]

You're on the right track about Sgt Pepper. I love the album but I like Rubber Soul better. I think Pepper just got hyped way way beyond because it was the Beatles doing it. I think Bob Dylan was so far ahead of his time that people needed something like the Beatles to kind of get them used to what he was trying to say. I guess I haven't explained that too well! Anyway, I like them both, and you certainly can't take anything away from either of them. But, honestly, can you understand anything that Dylan is singing now? Not the lyrics, just the way he actually sings?

[clickhoward]

Ive been told by a lot of people that Dylans last 2 CDs are great. I am skeptical. I dont really listen to any Dylan post Desire (maybe Street Legal). The guy had a huge problem when everyone caught up to him, or caught on to what he was trying to say or do. Poeple like Neil Young blantantly ripped him off (though quite well...) It took the break up of his wife Sara to make him produce 2 unbelievable albums in the mid seventies: Blood on the Tracks and Desire. He had something to say then - & how well he said it! Since then he wagged the flag for Jesus (didnt like that **** musically OR subject wise). After that he just didnt have anything to say. In my opinion he still doesnt. I think the guy is the one true genius that rock has created - but what do you do when everyone else is doing what you pioneered - just as well? His singing? I think that fits with nothing left to say. The guy was so poetic once, and had a voice that fit his great lyrics. Well nothing fits quite like it used to. One more thing: Dylan interprets. He hates doing his songs the same way over and over. He experiments with his voice and with his arrangements. Some people dont like that. But if he wasnt that way - we probably would have never got the awsome amount of great songs we got...

I'd be interested to hear if any of you guys play any Dylan songs? which ones?

[55'gibby]

if you mean play as in on my guitar... I love to play maggies farm, everybody must get stoned, highway 61, a few others. not a great fan of all the new dylan (haven't heard the latest), some of his older stuff just floors me poetically, although I do revamp some of the arrangements so they fit my style better.

johnnys in the basement
mixxin up the medicine
i'm on the pavement
thinkin' bout the goverment

or

shes sixty eight
but she says shes 54
I ain't gonna work on maggies
farm no more

[barbietta]

I like a lot of different types of music, old and new, but I am hopelessly and helplessly stuck in the sixties/seventies era. I love the Beatles, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, John Denver, Jim Croce, Bob Dylan, Carole King, Sandy Denny/Fairport Convention, Simon & Garfunkel etc...

As for Dylan's new music, I like it well enough, but it is very different from his early work. "Love and Theft" is part rockabilly, part country blues, part parody...instead of the Beat-influenced songs that reflect his experiences in youth, he sings of loss, spiritual yearning, and wisdom gained over the course of an entire lifetime. One song on the recording, "Mississippi", is a must-have for all Dylan fans.

Can anyone recommend any relatively unknown artists or songs from that era/genre that are worth checking out?

[clickhoward]

Like I said, there are more of us on this site than we think. I will check out Mississipi.

If vocal/guitar acts from the 60's interest you, you could check out: Tim Buckley (where Jeff inherited his voice), Terry Callier's folk stuff (brilliant!) , Dorris Henderson and John Redbourn, and my favourite Fred Neil. This stuff is folk based, but has outstanding guitar work on them. Pretty mellow but very melodic.:)

[barbietta]

I will definitely check out the musicians you recommended. I do like Fred Neil. "Everybody's Talkin'" is one of my favourite songs.

Thanks for the tip! :)