The treble staff- is it an overpopulated freak?

[Preacher75]

Hey bros. I asked this once before but I didn't make my question quite clear, so I never found out what I was asking. I'm gunna try to be a little more clear this time around. Okay, here it goes....

This is what I learned from cyber:
________________
__O_____________This is an Open E first string right?
___O____________ an C 0n the second string first fret
____O___________A third string second fret
_____O__________ F fourth string third fret
_O D fourth string open
_O B fifth string second fret
_O G sixth string third fret
_O E sixth string open

.... and of course the notes that fit between these-I couldn't figure out how to do that on this post. It seems that it's only possible to cover the first few frets by writing them out on the staff like this. Is there another symbol? Well, to dig a little deeper- My question is, there are about twenty spaces on the Treble staff right?

That only seems to leave three beds each for F, E, D, and C, and two beds each for B, A, and G. Well, I looked on the neck of the guitar and there are about sixteen E notes alone, and they are all demanding a place to lay their weary head, "A" won't scoot over and "G" is hogging the covers. Where in the world are we gunna house all these screaming toddlers- I mean notes. And who's gunna buy the stinking bread to feed um?! I'll bring the water- I camped near a creek. :D

Seriously though, how would it look if I wanted to tell someone to play the C note on the first string and twentieth fret? or a fifth string E at the nineteenth fret? What about all the notes inbetween? I know how how it looks on TAB but what about on the staff?

I have another question- what factors play the role in creating the root notes in a scale? Like The C major scale, I think that because the C is in the first position it is a C scale and thus one of the root notes is C. Right? I also saw that the G was one of the root notes for the C major scale. How's that? Or have I got it all wrong here?

Be cool dudes. Later.

Anyone know a clean place to find a good laugh?

[The Fury]

First, the staff. There are ledger lines to put the higher/lower notes on. They appear above, below or through a note(s) that doesn't fit on the treble stave.

_O*_
_____O____________
________O__O______
_______________O___
___________________
___________________
____
_O*_

* These notes are on ledger lines because they are too high/low to fit on the stave. I hope you understand, it's not easy to draw.



Seriously though, how would it look if I wanted to tell someone to play the C note on the first string and twentieth fret? or a fifth string E at the nineteenth fret? What about all the notes inbetween? I know how how it looks on TAB but what about on the staff?

I think this is one of the major downfalls of standard notation, since you can play the same D open or on the 10 fret E string, there is no way to tell which one it should be. This is why tablature is so good.


As for your other problem, I know the answer, I just can't put it into words very well, hopefully someone else will be able to explain.

Anyway, I hope that helps.

[The Fury]

I didn't read that first post properly, It seems you knew about ledger lines already, oh well. So, ignore that bit.:p

[Preacher75]

From what I learned here it seems tha the staff is totally worthless as far as the guitar. No? I mean a "G" open and a "G" third string twelth fret and a "G" sixth string fifteenth fret are worlds apart, and if they were the same, then somebody would be out of a job.....the notes I mean.

Thanks for the help bro. Later

[The Fury]

I used to think it was worthless, but if you combine it with tab it's perfect. The tab will tell you all the unique guitar notation and the standard notation will tell you the general information such as time signature, key signature, note duration and things like that.

[Preacher75]

cool