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satch
10-09-2005, 08:57 AM
The problem we all have trying to decode where the notes of a scale are
in a certain position is because as we move from 1 string to the next below it
those notes move differently.This is why chords from scales are so difficult.
BUT if you know the frets on 1 string in 1 key and adjust according to desired key.It is way easier and faster.
example.........................
Lets assume that any blues scale plays on the 3rd 5th 6th 7th 10th and 12th fret OF ONLY 1 STRING.So our formula for blues is........0 3 5 6 7 10.....0 = to 12th.

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----10---12---15---17--------Theoretically= 10, 0, 3, 5in sequence.
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So far what ive done is to pick 4 notes of the blues scale.
I chose to start on 10th and work the lower notes into the second octave.
Now the cool part!!!!!
Since im forming scale notes on the G string.
This is part of the blues scale in key of G!
If want blues in C.......simply move the whole pattern up 1/2 step at a time
calling out the key changes!
G.....G#....A.....A#....B......C
or we could move the pattern down the frets 1/2 step at a time.
calling out the key changes.
G...F#...F...E....D#...D....C#....C
Work another blues pattern using 3...5....6...7...10....12(or 0 )
on a different string.
Then your chord patterns will start to form.
Apply this logic to all these different scales..........................
Major........2......4...5....7....9....11...12
pentatonic minor............3...5...7....10...12
harmonic minor..........2...3...5...7...8....11....12
diminished..............2....3...5...6...8...9...1 1....12
augmented.............3....4....7...8....11...12
wholetone.............2....4....6....8.....10..... 12
neapolitian major.......1....3....5....7...9....11....12
melodic minor.....2....3...5...7...9....11...12
The modes of major would be
dorian works from the 2 of major
phrygian from the 4 of major
lydian from the 5 of major
mixolydian from the 7 of major
minor(aeolian)from the 9 of major
locrian from 11 of major
I have 20 other scales to add if anyones interested.
Remember for every different number inside the scale it can be its own mode!
So once you learn all 28 scales ,you automatically know all the modes!
Remember working numbers on only 1 string at a time and what ever
string your working on is the key!
blues numbers on E string will be blues in E
any scale on B string will be that scale in B etc.......
Remember you can work from and into both octaves for creativity! adjust accordingly....enjoy!

satch
10-09-2005, 01:00 PM
I would like to add that 99% of every theory post I post will contain formulas
that may be confusing because i never refer to notes as minor3rd/perfect4th
etc......Also i dont like using conventional letter names for notes......
IE......F F# B D# etc.......unless necessary like key names or roots.
The reason I refer to scales as a series of numbers is because I can modulate
add or subtract and its less combursome to call out 6..5...4...3...2etc...
then trying to call out letters and accidentals.You cant work with that like you can numbers.
Everything I do is referenced from the key of E IN NUMBERS.
Logically because standard 6 string tuning uses E as the lowest possible
starting point.So every interval is counted from E.
E being 0 or octave 12 or octave 24 when applicable.
In the above post all im doing is memorizing every possible scale that i will
ever need all from E in numbers.
This sets up my interval distances.......then as i form intervals on a specific string,it always applies to its lowest note.
So intervals of any scale never change,you simply need to know the reference note.If I reference everything from the lowest note(ie string)
then I know where i am at and where i want to go.
If you work on only 1 string you also dont have to worry about losing your place in the chain.Its easier to let the natural tuning of the guitar shape
your understanding then make changes afterward.WE all try to be able to memorize odd 13th chords in unorthadox scales in many positions,but
that is almost imposible to do when you think of 20+scales all their modes
in all keys.It is simply mindnumbing!Let the natural tuning work in your favor.
E major on e strings
frets........0...2...4....5....7....9....11..1st octave
..............12..14..16..17...19...21...23.....24 .......second octave
All i did here was add octave 12 to the 0...2....4....5....7....9...11.
to reach 2nd octave.
Since my numbers work from the lowest note we can assume
the same numbers on a different string will work in reference to that strings lowest note.Then simply move it in chromatic steps to desired key.
hope this helps.
frets on low E vs traditional chromatic names.
.....0..............1..............2.............. 3.............4............5..............6....
.....root......minor2nd....major2nd...minor3rd...m ajor3rd...perfect4th...minor5th.etc