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Hendrix_Is_God
09-17-2002, 02:36 PM
Hendrix Is God. Period.

popmusic_sux
09-17-2002, 08:26 PM
i have to agree, but randy rhoads would have to be jesus

Mr B
09-18-2002, 08:47 AM
for anyone who thinks that Hendrix is God, listen to EVH, Satriani, Vai, Jimmy Page, Rhandy Rhoads or Tom Morello, then become a polytheist.

Ginner4
09-19-2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Mr B
for anyone who thinks that Hendrix is God, listen to EVH, Satriani, Vai, Jimmy Page, Rhandy Rhoads or Tom Morello, then become a polytheist.


ha




exactly!

fizz
09-20-2002, 12:09 PM
Yea I'm with Mr B

BloodXero
09-20-2002, 03:56 PM
ginner, how do you make an animation.

jimi is one of the best id say, but there's a whole lot of people out there that are better than him in some areas.

JiMi=GoD
09-20-2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Hendrix_Is_God
Hendrix Is God. Period.

Hence my name....

Super_smack1
09-23-2002, 04:30 AM
hendrix is overrated and sucks balls compared to other real guitarists not ones who have to rely on useless noise and effects to try and seem innovative and original. When you bring hendrixs music to the lowest common denominator it is really pathetic and lacks structure and flow.

JiMi=GoD
09-23-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Super_smack1
When you bring hendrixs music to the lowest common denominator it is really pathetic and lacks structure and flow.

your trying to say hendrix hand no flow!? thats one of the things he was best at!

Perfect4th
09-25-2002, 05:01 PM
Hey Fizz, if Hendrix_Is_God is on track, then you need to change your signature to: "Hendrix Hates Us All" :)

Peace!

Mr B
09-25-2002, 05:56 PM
@ supersmack 1, Hendrix may not have been the best guitarist, but that's probably not the point. He was cool enough to freeze the sun, that's the point, I think, and that's why he is an idol.

suppaenitetere
09-27-2002, 12:11 AM
hendrix is overrated and sucks balls compared to other real guitarists not ones who have to rely on useless noise and effects to try and seem innovative and original. When you bring hendrixs music to the lowest common denominator it is really pathetic and lacks structure and flow.

Id be curious to know what you're listening to since you seem to hate hendrix so much. I *might* (and thats highly stressed) not lose massive amounts of respect were you listening to Charlie christian/Django Rheinhardt/Wes Montgomery/John Mclaughlin Etc because those guys have truckloads of technical ability. To think there are better guitarists than hendrix is perfectly alright, but to totally deny the innovation and soul that was Hendrix is simply not to comprehend the totality of what he did for music. To adress your points one by one...

A. Effects to seem innovative and original

Compared to most modern day guitarist he used minimal amounts of effects. His line generally included a wah, his fuzz face, and octave pedal and a univibe leslie simulator. At the time using that noise WAS innovative. No one used feedback, no one pushed their amp to the point of being about to explode. He also innovated in a thousand other ways. The basis was the blues and robert johnson but what came out of hendrix was all his own. I cant really think of anything that sounds like purple haze or voodoochild(either version!) that came before them. Little wing and castles made of sand were so smooth and flowy with beautifully molded lyrics, think folk meets one hell of a guitar player.

B. Hendrix lacked structure of flow

You've obviously never given him a real chance. It's infact far harder to hold a song together without structure than it is to strum perfeclty defined chords. He also had songs that were highly structured, is chord progressions were often amazingly innovative. At a time when the standard blues/classic rock I IV V progression was the norm he was doing backcycling jazz progressions in rock. He was changing keys in the middle of verses or throwing in chromatic notes that had no place being there but fit perfectly. As for flow, im not even sure how to argue this... its like stating that the sky is green. How do you argue with that?

Bottom line hendrix had more soul than anyone i've heard, thats why hes my all time favorite artist, not just guitarist. To watch/listen to him improv redhouse or the non slightreturn version of voodoochild is to be taken somewhere else. You cease being bored and thinking about what guitar licks come next. You just feel the music, it pours straight from his heart through his guitar with nothing lost in the translation. thats what makes him better, in my eyes, than all the ubertechy guitarists. He played guitar to say something.

pr0digy
09-27-2002, 12:44 AM
Well said suppaenitetere.

Although I think Jimmy Page is above Hendrix.
Jimi should come second to Jimmy.

suppaenitetere
09-27-2002, 01:58 AM
Page is also a great guitarist. Jimi being the best is a preferance thing. Not at least recognizing the innovation and talent of hendrix is what frustrated me hehe.

fizz
09-27-2002, 04:31 AM
lol @ perfect ;)

smfulla
09-27-2002, 06:54 PM
hendrix isn't god.
hendrix isn't even the best guitar player to ever live. ALot of people go spouting about Jimi Hendrix about how he is all this and a bag of chips. But to be honest, Hendrix wasn't the best, isn't the best, and will probably wouldn't have been the best. That's not to say he wasn't a good songwriter. Coz he wrote some pretty good songs. Not all of them are my style, but there certainly were some greats.
But he wasn't the best, he was good, and he had his own style, but he just wasn't the best.

suppaenitetere
09-27-2002, 08:53 PM
Once again im just going to say it, thats preferance. Dont state he ISNT the best. Say hes not YOUR favorite. Thats what bugs me, its an opinion thing.

BloodXero
09-27-2002, 10:39 PM
how about this ...




WE ALL SHUTUP ABOUT WHO'S THE BEST BECAUSE THERE IS NO "BEST" SEEING AS HOW "BEST" IS JUST AN OPINION.



im satisfied...

smfulla
09-28-2002, 04:05 AM
ahem... hendrix is god... does that imply that someone is the best at something?
yes, if not the best at everything
it's funny y'kno, shawn a.k.a cyberfret told lal the christians to basically shut up about their beliefs, yet it is thrown back in their faces with comments such as these.
Not to bring up a debate about religion, just stating a fact.

suppaenitetere
09-28-2002, 04:14 AM
*Hugs and kisses for smfulla*

Love cures all!

Im not sure what im talking about after being up for 17 hours so excuse me.

pr0digy
09-28-2002, 05:52 AM
Saying that "Hendrix is the best" is an opinion, it is not fact.
There is no "best" guitarist, it's all a matter of personal preference and opinion.
Everyone is different, some people don't like what others may love.
I personally prefer Jimmy Page to Hendrix, but if I state that I think Jimmy is the "best", that's only my opinion, it is not "fact".

suppaenitetere
09-28-2002, 01:35 PM
Thank you prod, thats what im saying :)

gnsnrses
10-11-2002, 09:03 PM
alright super smack i dont know what you were smokin when you said hendrix sucks balls.if im not mistaken i belive hendrix was one of the first people to play somethin that fast and original.im only 13 but i know how blacks had it in the sixties because i live in what used to be one of the most racist places in the south and he had to overcome all of the racist remarks from people and he was still on of the most popular people of his time despite his color. Hendrix rules.

Josh Redstone
10-11-2002, 10:18 PM
That is so true. The only real popular black music before Hendrix was Elvis doing rock and roll rehashes of black songwriters work. Elvis didn't invent rock as we kno it, Hendrix did.
Also, although this is only my opinion, I think there are far better players than Hendrix, but thats not why Jimi was so great, he was the most influential guitarist in the universe.

suppaenitetere
10-11-2002, 11:51 PM
Elvis didnt even invent rock and roll as he knew it! Chuck berry had a FAR bigger influence on rock and roll than elvis.

fizz
10-12-2002, 09:52 AM
It was probably all inspired by some unknown playing to himself and someone heard it etc..

Josh Redstone
10-12-2002, 10:20 AM
One things for sure, if it werent for Hendrix, we'd still be playing a bunch clean, happy, non fast, non feedback laced pop.

Mr B
10-13-2002, 03:54 PM
yeah, Hendrix stole music's virginity!

Jools
10-13-2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
One things for sure, if it werent for Hendrix, we'd still be playing a bunch clean, happy, non fast, non feedback laced pop.

and we're not? ;)

Josh Redstone
10-13-2002, 06:12 PM
Since when does a 13 year old Blond Britney Spears wannabe listen to Hendrix? I dont think she'd ever play guitar.
At least there is some real rock and roll on the airwaves.

pr0digy
10-14-2002, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
Since when does a 13 year old Blond Britney Spears wannabe listen to Hendrix? I dont think she'd ever play guitar.
At least there is some real rock and roll on the airwaves.

Britney Spears wouldn't know wtf a guitar was, let alone know anything about music.

It's quite simple...she's a pop star because she has a nice ass and face.:D

Super_smack1
10-14-2002, 06:30 AM
if i remember right, hendrix was the one smoking stuff...

Super_smack1
10-14-2002, 06:32 AM
how can you call it a great mind and music genius when it wasnt a clear mind, his actual mind?

Josh Redstone
10-14-2002, 10:32 AM
We call him a musical genius because he not only revolutionized how the guitar is played, but wrote some of the coolest songs ever.
If you dont like his personal life, big deal, its not like your gonna get the chance to change it.

Super_smack1
10-14-2002, 10:36 AM
dude you completely missed my point, how can you attribute those things to him when he was always in a "purple haze" ha ha ha. and it so happens music feeds off your personal life it should be a big deal. like when you read a book you find out about the author to see where he/she is coming from, its about perspectives. and jimi hendrix's perspective was warped not because of his own genius or mind but because in his personal life he had to yield to worldy substances to get his drive.

pr0digy
10-14-2002, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Super_smack1
dude you completely missed my point, how can you attribute those things to him when he was always in a "purple haze" ha ha ha. and it so happens music feeds off your personal life it should be a big deal. like when you read a book you find out about the author to see where he/she is coming from, its about perspectives. and jimi hendrix's perspective was warped not because of his own genius or mind but because in his personal life he had to yield to worldy substances to get his drive.

Not true.

Josh Redstone
10-14-2002, 10:50 AM
Super_smack1, were you the one liked those christian bands on that other thread? Just wondering, I cant remember.

Super_smack1
10-14-2002, 10:52 AM
haha nah...im supposedly episcopalian protestant but cant say i ever heard the big man speaking to me. i usually hear the guy with the horns.

Josh Redstone
10-14-2002, 10:55 AM
Oh. Its just remembered something like that on another thread and your name came to mind.

punisher
10-30-2002, 10:43 PM
Stevie ray vaughn and now that ive heard Bernard allison those two should be included in the guitar gods section.

discoglen
11-01-2002, 03:41 PM
hendrix is the best guitarist of all time. but to be god you have to look at the 'who looks coolest playing guitar' thread. We are, apparently made in god image, so we may as well pick the coolest looking one

Mr B
11-03-2002, 05:17 PM
"we are...made in God's image", don't listen to that stuff, man, that's just something ugly people say :D

fizz
11-03-2002, 08:44 PM
Meh, boring.

Jimi loves it.

Black Star
11-07-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Mr B
for anyone who thinks that Hendrix is God, listen to EVH, Satriani, Vai, Jimmy Page, Rhandy Rhoads or Tom Morello, then become a polytheist.

you forgot malmsteen, gilbert, petrucci, michael romeo, and just about every other guitar player on the planet. Except for the guitaristis that are in the bands you hear on the new radio stations

Mr B
11-07-2002, 12:14 PM
michael romeo is on the radio all the time, so melodic, so accessible, he's not the least bit up himself, just like Yngwie and co.

Agalloch
11-10-2002, 05:56 PM
Hendrix is unbelievably overated.

ohz
11-10-2002, 10:24 PM
Lets all just say your not a real guitarist if you havent heard Hendrix. I'm not saying hes god and im not saying hes over rated and sucks. the end

Mr B
11-11-2002, 02:03 PM
if you're not a real guitarist until you've heard Hendrix, then how do you explain all those other great guitarists who were around before Hendrix, y'know the ones he copied...@_@

JiMi=GoD
11-11-2002, 05:43 PM
Hmm copied is the wrong word! i reckon "influenced by" would be better!
rob

ohz
11-11-2002, 09:08 PM
hendrix made them better

EdZ
11-11-2002, 09:37 PM
I think Bob Marley is higly over-rated, give me a joint and i'll come up with some pretty creative **** thank you very much. Hendrix, imo, was overrated. He did however, make good music, whether or not the talent put into it was up to par with page or other greats is debatable. He made simple things sound good. I think all of you guys have been exposed to stuff like kirk hammet and malmsteen too much. Good guitar isnt allways how fast you play, its how it sounds. Even if hes playing slower that an old woman, it can still sound real good, and that does make you a good guitar player.

Black Star
11-14-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Mr B
michael romeo is on the radio all the time, so melodic, so accessible, he's not the least bit up himself, just like Yngwie and co.

really? i've never heard em on the radio myself.

distr0ided
11-14-2002, 05:33 PM
just to add to the list of greats, who heres heard tim reynolds play?

Josh Redstone
11-14-2002, 08:29 PM
I dont think Hendrix was over rated. Most people say he is based on his playing ability, but you cant do that, you must go by his influence on the generations around after his death. He was far more influencial than he was fast, and thats what he should be rated on. His influence.

Mr B
11-16-2002, 07:58 AM
bingo. the nail in the coffin (no irony intended).

ohz
11-16-2002, 08:50 AM
good one Josh Redstone! ;)

Josh Redstone
11-16-2002, 10:42 AM
See, I can make sense when I want to.

Scott
11-16-2002, 01:59 PM
Zakk Wylde and BB king are the men for the job.

Josh Redstone
11-16-2002, 02:50 PM
They wouldn't be around either if Hendrix hadn't done his stuff.

Super_smack1
11-17-2002, 12:09 AM
jason becker kicks butt

Black Star
11-17-2002, 09:20 PM
Jason Becker was the best guitarist ever. his shred is unrelenting. its really sad what happened to him.

jaytee
11-18-2002, 12:37 AM
ive seen tim reynolds live...and honestly...i couldnt figure out how one man can do so much in so little time....its really something to be experienced....
the cd he put out with DM is one of my favorites...the guy is incredible...i wish more people would just check him out.....hes not as well known as he should be cuz he spends all his time touring/recording as a guest with other peoples bands....a very much sought after guitarist in the professional world....

as for hendrix...being that he has influenced so many musicians...he had to be great...but i wouldnt call him god...just my opinion....

--jt

distr0ided
11-18-2002, 01:03 AM
i would love to see tim play live. i havent heard him do anything other than his stuff with dave... thats all that comes up when u type his name in kazaa. i went to his web page and saw that he has several solo cds out, but i havent been able to find em in any stores around here. i may just go ahead and buy em online.

hishamshaker
11-20-2002, 09:39 AM
hey you piece of **** dont compare that crack head with god !

JiMi=GoD
11-20-2002, 01:13 PM
Ur new round here right?

Just a quick comment, i dont think commments like that are gona get u far round here, firstly hendrix wasnt a crack head, and dont go calling anybody a piece of S*** its not on.

rob

distr0ided
11-20-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by hishamshaker
hey you piece of **** dont compare that crack head with god !

im assuming youre stating this as some sort of defense or reverence for your particular spiritual beliefs and that can be respected. however, name calling is not becoming and only lowers my rather limited opinion of your character. and as jimi said, hendrix wasnt a crack head. infact, im not exactly positive, but i dont believe crack existed back in jimmi's day. im gonna cut this short before i start preaching, but please be respectful of others opinions, and keep the name-calling in the sandbox. peace.

Agalloch
11-20-2002, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by distr0ided


im assuming youre stating this as some sort of defense or reverence for your particular spiritual beliefs and that can be respected. however, name calling is not becoming and only lowers my rather limited opinion of your character. and as jimi said, hendrix wasnt a crack head. infact, im not exactly positive, but i dont believe crack existed back in jimmi's day. im gonna cut this short before i start preaching, but please be respectful of others opinions, and keep the name-calling in the sandbox. peace.

hahahahaaa!!! you dont think crack existed back then? what are you, 14? my god, why the hell do you think they call Coca-Cola COKE? one of its original indgridients was crack.

jaytee
11-20-2002, 07:37 PM
ehhhh
one of the ingredients was supposedly cocaine...and i dont believe ive ever heard it disputed, but it seems odd...story is when they found out it was in there and it was bad they were forced to change the recipe....hence the name "coke"...

here is a bit of a different story i found on the net:
"Coca-Cola was invented in 1886 by a Atlanta pharmicist John S. Pembrook. Mr. Pembrooks bookeeper and long time friend Frank M. Robinson suggested the name Coca-Cola, being derived from Coca a southamerican shrub( yes the same shrub that cocaine is made from) and Kola (a nut). Frank also suggested the unique cursive style of writing the Coca-Cola name. Originally Coca-Cola( in syrup form) was sold only at Pembertons pharmacy. Eventually Pemberton convinced a local soda shop to sell it as a beverage by diluting it with water, The Coca-Cola soft drink was a huge success. Then in 1888 Pemberton died and Asa G. Candler bought all the rights to Coca-Cola. He also decided to replace the regular water being used with carbonated water giving the beverage its fizz. Until the turn of the century Coca-Cola was sold only at soda fountains then a Chatanooga lawyer by the name of Bengamin F. Thomas came up with the idea of bottling and distributing it around the country. In gratitude for his idea Candler gave Thomas the exclusive rights to bottle Coca-Cola"

the end


crack is a derivative of cocaine and quite possibly was not "invented" yet...im not sure when they made it...drugs are not my world but cocacola/caffeine <-- a drug lol....is!

jaytee
11-20-2002, 08:16 PM
http://www.nida.nih.gov/about/organization/cewg/Retro.html


see now youve peaked my curiosity...and i had to go look for the info....

according to this crack was invented around 1980....

distr0ided
11-20-2002, 08:38 PM
@ agalloch- first, im 20, not 14. second, crack was not around in hendrix's day. thats not to say he didnt get a little lit up every now and then with a touch of the nose candy, but that is a far cry from smoking crack. and u said so yourself...we call coca cola 'coke'. ...we dont call it 'crack'

@ jt- u learn something new every day :)

fizz
11-20-2002, 08:52 PM
My my, the language in this thread...

Mr B
11-21-2002, 10:06 AM
yes, it really sits well with the religious imperialism.

fretfire
11-21-2002, 11:23 AM
Crack was around back in Hendrix's day, it was just called Free-Base back then. That doesn't mean he did it though.:D

Jools
11-22-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by hishamshaker
hey you piece of **** dont compare that crack head with god !

The Guitar God exists, here is his website. (http://j-walk.com/music/aboutme.htm)

JiMi=GoD
11-23-2002, 08:05 AM
hehe is that site for real!!??

those pictures gotta be fakes! lol

funny site tho...just seems all to real though!

Mr B
11-23-2002, 08:39 AM
hahaha, a bunch of ugly people who live in caravans, I never tire of that joke.

gnsnrses
11-28-2002, 10:46 PM
I havent checked the threads lately but i just was and if redstone is comparing me to a 13 year old blonde britney spears then **** him. And if im having a bad day i just think to myself , at least im no a dumass canadian

Mr B
11-29-2002, 07:31 AM
lol, dude: you're from Birmingham, and it's not even the Birmingham in England, it's in Alabama.

gnsnrses
11-29-2002, 11:50 AM
Theres a birmingham in england?

fizz
11-29-2002, 01:11 PM
The only reason theres a Birmingham in Canada is because of the Birmingham in England.

Mr B
11-29-2002, 06:07 PM
"There's a Birmingham in England"


these people have more nukes than the rest of the world. This is why we need a stronger EU.

suppaenitetere
11-29-2002, 07:08 PM
Well i want no part of the argument with GNR as it was silly from the get go, but i dont appreciate generalizations about Americans. Im sure there is just as many dull europeans as there are Americans. I realize GNR started it with the crack at canadians(equally inappropriate) but none of this has any business on a guitar message board.

Josh Redstone
11-29-2002, 11:30 PM
And I dont really like bing pegged as a Dumbass Canadian. And gnsrses, please explain what the hell your cutting me up for!!!!!!! I dont even know who you are, how am I supposed to bash you? I was comparing two types of music gnres. Maybe you should re examin that post, and lose the whole "I'm not Canadian so I'm alright." attitude. It doesn't sit well here.

Black Star
12-02-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by gnsnrses
I havent checked the threads lately but i just was and if redstone is comparing me to a 13 year old blonde britney spears then **** him. And if im having a bad day i just think to myself , at least im no a dumass canadian

you didn't even spell dumbass right, you dumbass

distr0ided
12-02-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
And I dont really like bing pegged as a Dumbass Canadian. And gnsrses, please explain what the hell your cutting me up for!!!!!!! I dont even know who you are, how am I supposed to bash you? I was comparing two types of music gnres. Maybe you should re examin that post, and lose the whole "I'm not Canadian so I'm alright." attitude. It doesn't sit well here.


you didn't even spell genre right, you ge... wait...maybe i shoulda thought this one out first...

Mr B
12-04-2002, 11:40 AM
I believe JR has been well and truly vindicated

Josh Redstone
12-06-2002, 08:00 PM
After many re-editings of my post here due to much confusion on what everyone has said, I have one reply. Cool.
Just dont laugh cause I had to look vindicated up in the dictionary.:D

Mr B
12-08-2002, 05:26 PM
ok, but I will hilariate freely.

wild_axeman
12-08-2002, 07:32 PM
No one is "GOD"...especially not Clapton!
Conversely no one is a "Demon" either.

wild_axeman
12-09-2002, 05:35 AM
Hendrix is in no way overrated.If you think he is then you haven't heard enough of his recordings yet.Believe me he has tons of interesting rhythm parts to learn that are hella fun to play =< )
not to mention some truly amazing leads!!!

There's so much killer stuff out there that some of you have probably never heard of."Obscurity" is good,you'd be surprised what gems you can find in alot of older music that you haven't ever heard.

Check out the album "Leftoverture" by Kansas...some of the guitar playing on that album from the 70's has lead guitar that sounds at times like Steve Vai,Kerry King,Van Halen,Yngwie all sorts of stuff..you'd truly be amazed!

Listen to the song "Rock and Roll Nights" by B.T.O. you'd swear it was an Ozzy song.

Nothing is original,atleast not too original/everything has either been done before or is coming from somewhere...

Jools
12-09-2002, 07:20 AM
anyone know how to play uranus rock?