Song Writing

[Gui7arFreak]

Whats up guys, I'd probably class myself as an intermediate-beginner, as odd as it sounds I can't really put myself anywhere at this point.

Anyone with songwriting tips would be very helpful. I come up with cool sounding riffs, and loop them, and play lead over them, but theres just something missing, I can't seem to link anything together properly, the riffs are just jumbled up, and seem out of place. Is there any kind of formula I can follow besides, 1,2,3,4, change, 1,2,3,4 change, it gets so boring, and I'm stuck with harsh repetitive riffs that don't fit together properly.

[Daedra Lord]

Whats up guys, I'd probably class myself as an intermediate-beginner, as odd as it sounds I can't really put myself anywhere at this point.

Anyone with songwriting tips would be very helpful. I come up with cool sounding riffs, and loop them, and play lead over them, but theres just something missing, I can't seem to link anything together properly, the riffs are just jumbled up, and seem out of place. Is there any kind of formula I can follow besides, 1,2,3,4, change, 1,2,3,4 change, it gets so boring, and I'm stuck with harsh repetitive riffs that don't fit together properly.
im at the same stage with writing riffs where can get a cool riff on my bass, but it just gets repetitive. you could look at some riff based songs and learn from what they do. one example is in down on the corner by CCR, the bass player does the same riff, but changes position on the 3rd measure out of every 4

[Rapture]

Heh, I've been there. What I'd do is just record what you have so far, figure out what key it's in (unless you know that already) and try to come up with another riff that fits before or after that. One thing I'd do, is listen to some of my favorite songs. After they're done with riff A and go into riff B, I check it all out and see what the last note of riff A is, and how it relates to the first note of riff B. I'm referring to what the interval is, if they're even in the same scale, etc.

Of course we can't tell you exactly how to get things done, but we can surely give you helpful tips and things you can use. ;) Keep in mind that in the end, it's purely up to you to write your music.