Gax70...

[RS06]

Someone told me that the Ibanez GAX70 was a beginners guitar. Is that true? And if so, what guitar is not a beginners guitar that Ibanez makes. There are two I would like to have...the SA160 amd the S470. Are they good choices?

[ESP_Viper]

The 70 is a beginners guitar. The S470 has a double locking tremolo. They are very complicated to setup, to restring, and are a pain to maintain. Make sure if you get it that you are ready for lots of setting up and lots of sh*t you have to do. SA160 is pretty good. I have played a few, not too bad of a guitar. You could do much worse for that price.

[RS06]

Thanks man. Do you have any suggestions on a new and better guitar?

[ESP_Viper]

Well ESP LTD makes some good guitars, Jackson, Ibanenz, BC Rich, Washburn, The Santana SE guitar, check out online catalogs.

[rockstar]

esp_viper listens to death metal dont you? you have to if you like washburn, jackson, or BC rich. come on man nobody plays them anymore.

[ESP_Viper]

I listen to everything. My favorite band right now is dream theater. I am into anything from metal, to blues, to jazz, to acoustic. I play emo (that's the closest description for my band). So a guitar suitable for metal is what I need. But those guitars don't have to be metal guitars. My guitar can kill with metal tones, it can get some jazzy tones, some bluesy, and extremely clean tones. I have a coil tap so that adds versatility. So those guitars don't have to be strictly 'death metal' guitars. I can't stand some of this new metal (limp bizkit, korn, papa roach, etc.) I need stuff that the guitarist uses their skill...!

[RS06]

Meegs Rascon of Coal Chamber uses a B.C. Rich.

[ESP_Viper]

A brand of guitar isn't just for a single style. They have a main style in mind... but they work great for all styles. I've seen a Jackson rhoads put out the best blues tone. I've seen a Gibson ES-335 put out the best metal tone. It's all in how you play it, the pickups you use, and the amps. Also has to do w/ construction of the guitar... but pickups and amps are the main factor.

Bottom line... Get a guitar that feels good, and makes you happy. Change the pickups to make the guitar sound like what you want, and get the amps that are for the style of playing you do.

[RS06]

I know that. I was just saying that B.C. Rich isn't just for death metal. You can make any guitar sound any way you would like it to.

[Mason]

I would like to point out a few things #1 the biggest washburn user i know of is Sammy Haggar and he is anything but death metal, #2 Jackson is (in my opinion) mainly used in shred metal, and #3 Slash (from Guns & Roses and Slash's Snake Pit) is a big fan of the B.C. Rich Mockingbird its one of his favorite guitars, next to the Les Paul of course

[Sandman_96707]

;)Esp_viper - yeah, that's why a lot of new metal is lame. Lyrics are important too though. What's "emo"?

:mad::mad::mad:rockstar - If nobody played them, they wouldn't be in stores & catalogs, like Kramers for example. Jackson's and Washburns seem like multi-purpose guitars. Not all Washburns are like the Dime2st, they like many company have other models (including strat copies). Sounds too me that you like to jump on bandwagons if you wanna rag on Esp_Viper for playing something that "nobody plays anymore". Or atleast nobody famous. A lot of the bands underground are better because they don't have some manager telling how to make the music and what to release. People shocked by Marilyn Manson would be horribly repulsed by Dimmu Borgir as another example. And what's wrong if he likes metal? You say that like a bad thing.

;)RS06 - yeah, any guitar can sound like anything, but the B.C rich Warlocks, Beasts, and V's are obviously marketed to metal heads for their unusual shapes. You'd never see B.B. King w/ one of those:)