I know the basic concept but i cant read notation.

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I understand that the 5 lines are the notes E,G,B,D,F and the spaces are F,A,C,E and that a Whole note is worth 4 beats and a half note is 2 and a quarter note is 1 and an eighth note is 1/2 etc. My problem is like when there is like 4 eighth notes all stuck togather in the same measure i cant read it at all. I need some help about that because all the sites just tell me the basic concept but not any good tips or suggestions on how to read it. Plz help

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My note values might also be off but last time i checked that was the values.

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Oh yea and one more thing how do i know what string to play on like if i see a whole note on the first line would that be the low E string or what?

[eische]

ok, let's see...

...the four beats and so on is ok, although I think it's also useful to keep in mind the relation between the notes, because the length of course depends on the speed of the whole song (like in the time of a half note you play two quarter notes and so on)...
...interesting way of naming notes on the lines in this way... the only reference I had was the g (that would be the open g-string-note) to be the third from above... I good way to come to it as you play is to first write all the notes names underneath, so you don't have to count them out while playing...that should help you with your four eighth in a measure (that's a 2/2-beat then), too - well, hopefully...

...you don't know exactly where to play the notes, you have to find that out by yourself, although the fingering included in some notations gives you a hint, but for a rough pattern, you may remember the open strings:

low E: that is the one sitting underneath the third ledger-line under the stack
A: that one is on the second ledger-line under the stack
d: that's the one hanging directly under the stack, under the e-line (egbdf) as you may name it
g: that's the one on the third line from above, on the line the cleff starts on (egbdf)
b: that's on the second line from above (egbdf)
high e: that's the one between the first two lines from above, your e-space (face) as you have named it

hope this helps, oh and like everything else, practise does do a lot for you...

[geffen]

i personally think you need a method book that teaches standard notation because it takes some practice. your note values are ok for 4/4 time, but when that bottom number in the key signature changes, so do the note durations. and to help with your problem with 4 eighth notes in a row, you can figure out where each note comes in in the measure. for example, you can divide the beats into 1 2 3 4, and in the middle you can put + pronounced "and" for the upbeats, so you have 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + in a measure. and once you start doing sixteenth notes you can count them "1 e + uh". tap your foot it helps. i know this is probably hard to understand im sorry for the poor explination. and the 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + thing i was talking about, that is for counting outloud. so for 8 eighth notes in a measure you would say "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and" while tapping your foot. good luck

tapping your foot: tap your foot up and down with each time your foot hits the ground being 1 beat in the measure. so 1 rotation = 1 quarter note. when your foot is as high as it will get in the air(half way through the beat) its the middle of the beat, which is where the eigth note would come in.

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Thanx for the help, i know it will help me out when i re read it but im to sleepy to do so now. i did get some help on just a quick skim so i know it will be useful thanx to u both.