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higrob
10-11-2001, 11:27 PM
I bought a new guitar to learn on (Fernandes Revolver Pro...Floyd Rose bridge).
After picking up other guitars the action seemed high on mine.I have taken it in twice for repair and the repairman has told me that this is about as low as it goes for this model.
Even inexpensive guitars have lower action.Also,the neck must be removed for adjustment as there is no top adjustment hole.
Should I have chosen a less expensive guitar with lower action to learn on?
I have e-mailed Fernandes twice and did not get any response.Shouldn't all guitars of this category have top adjustment? :confused:
ESP_Viper
10-14-2001, 05:40 PM
Sounds like you got ripped off.
Krieselman13
11-12-2001, 12:03 AM
dude, id have to agree.
YetAnotherOne
11-18-2001, 02:37 AM
Depends on what the problem actually is but so long as it's a bolt-on neck there's almost always a way to make it better.
If the action is too high at the nut you might try taking the Floyd's locking nut off then filing away just a little bit of wood so the nut will be lower when you reinstall it. Depending on what the locking nut looks like you might also be able to correct for this problem by filing the notches in the nut so they're just a bit deeper (I'd try this first since a new locking nut will be less expensive than a new neck).
If the neck is bowed and can't be adjusted any farther you could try having it pressed/straightened (can't really do this yourself w/o the proper equipment). Note that this may be expensive.
If the neck isn't bowed and the action near the nut is OK you might just need to shim the neck a bit. Remove it, place a thin shim in the body cavity where the neck sits then reinstall the neck. Strips cut from matchbook covers work reasonably well as shims.
Unless the neck is badly warped (i.e., firewood) a combination of shimming the neck, adjusting the bridge height and/or filing the nut should help.
ESP_Viper
11-18-2001, 08:05 AM
Regardless of what you can do to fix it, a new guitar SHOULD NOT need work on the wood. A new guitar should come playable, and any problem it has should be adjustable. So filing wood (which I don't think is something you should do on your own) or pressing the neck really shouldn't be something needed to be done to a new guitar. You should have played the guitar before ya bought it!
YetAnotherOne
11-18-2001, 06:35 PM
Granted, some of those suggestions are things one *shouldn't* have to do to a new guitar but none of them are things that *couldn't* be done to a new guitar, particularly as a last resort when simple adjustments have failed. I also agree that some of those suggestions are things best left to someone who has attempted them before.
My point in making the post in the first place (and I didn't do a great job of getting this across) was to indicate that when a tech tells you that your shiny new mid-level guitar is firewood he's probably not correct. More likely he's: 1) lazy, 2) incompetent, 3) interested in getting you to trade it in so his shop can sell you another guitar and he can score a commission, etc. In my experience, good techs are rare but the real problem is that when you find them they're also expensive.
The poor guy has shelled out some hard-earned bucks on a new axe and wants nothing more than for it to play a bit better than it does now. A tech telling him that it is impossible or someone on the 'net telling him that he should have played it before he bought it doesn't really help the guy get where he wants to go. Maybe my suggestions won't either but he should know that there *are* things that can be done despite what his local tech has told him.
ESP_Viper
11-18-2001, 06:49 PM
Then that'd be the time to exchange or return it.
johnyquest411
12-12-2002, 06:18 PM
this is great news for me, i happen to have this guitar on order.
doh!, so is this guitar basically trash and an automatic return item????
Hmm, weird, i know! GO to that guy and slap him in the face with it!
johnyquest411
12-13-2002, 03:41 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ what are you talking about ha
johnyquest411
12-13-2002, 06:20 PM
So I am suppose to read the posts before?? Thanks for the tip, i don't know what i'd do without you.
So what was the relevence of your first post to my question?
Bloody hell.
Drop the attitude, read the posts, and you will see what is being said.
Basically, there ARE things which you can do to solve that problem which the guy has, however it is possible that this can be expensive. Before buying guitar it is not unusual for the customer to play the instrument he is interested in spending money on so that he knows that he will be satisfied with it - I'm not questionning your common sense or intuition by saying this, take it as a lesson - you now know not to buy an instrument without thoroughly playing it. Try and refund it. Put up an ad and sell it. And in future, stay away from Fernandez guitars.
deftones
12-14-2002, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by higrob
I bought a new guitar to learn on (Fernandes Revolver Pro...Floyd Rose bridge).
my friend has one of these guitars. there's no problem with his action, and it plays really good. looks like you just got a bum guitar.
another thing you can try to do is get thicker strings, it will make the strings harder to push down and do bends, but the action should be slightly lower.
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