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Griffin_Page
06-02-2003, 07:46 PM
Is it just me or are these guys amazing? I've been really into these guys lately, and it's changed my guitaring for the better.. for people who like metal but aren't fans of all power-chords, these guys are the sh*t. Most of their chords are just simple bar chords like minors and majors, but it has so much more depth than most other death metal and metal as a whole, because there is a feeling there that isn't just teenage anger. These guys are my new idols ^_^. Plus their acoustic stuff is beautiful, yet so dark. It's great. If anyone hasn't checked them out, I suggest you do. Check out these songs:

My favs:

Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Harvest (all acoustic)
Blackwater Park

This is all from the Blackwater Park album, their best in my opinion.. otherwise get "Black Rose Immortal", i hate the voice on the song but many people love that song. And i hear their two new CDs, Deliverance and Damnation are supposed to be even better. Well, enough of my ranting, just listen to them if you haven't, and if you have post your opinions of these guys. BTW Dream Theater is awesome too, their both a kind of Progressive Metal.

deftones
06-02-2003, 10:55 PM
OMG OMG OMG, i love you. opeth is an awsome band, especially live. they make no mistakes live. i heavily recommend this band to any metal head.

Griffin_Page
06-03-2003, 01:23 AM
That stuff kicks so much ass! They are awesome, and now my eyes are finally being opened to the awesome world of Death Metal. Woohoo i'm glad we have other Opeth fans on here! Anyone else?

Zero
06-03-2003, 08:02 AM
I've just recently become an Opeth fan... :D I think they ROCK!!! I remember reading an interview with them in guitar world a while back... They have three guitarists? That's pretty crazy, if you ask me...

Claire
06-03-2003, 12:48 PM
i loooooooooooooooove opeth. they're great. :)

popmusic_sux
06-03-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Zero
They have three guitarists? That's pretty crazy, if you ask me...

i think andrew w.k. has 3 guitarists too...

deftones
06-03-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Zero
They have three guitarists?

ummm... no. unless you count the bassist as a guitarist.

Griffin_Page
06-04-2003, 10:55 AM
Yeah Opeth's just made up of

Mikael Akerfeldt - Vocals/Guitar
Peter Lindgren - Guitar
Martin Mendez - Bass
Martin Lopez - Drums

Although on their recordings there are usually three main guitar parts.. two electric and one acoustic, although live they choose the most important two probably.

deftones
06-04-2003, 03:58 PM
theres also another instrument they use in the studio but i forget what it's called.

BlueImpact240sx
06-04-2003, 05:56 PM
I think they used a 12-string acoustic for the recording of their Damnation album. Im not too sure though. Just FYI for you all that might wanna buy their cd's, Damnation and Deliverance both take the soft and heavy side of Blackwater Park even farther. So basically Damnation=soft peices and Deliverance=heaviest stuff yet. If you haven't got a chance check them out.

Chris

deftones
06-04-2003, 06:00 PM
opeth reffers to damnation and deliverece cds as "an experimentation in dark and light" or something like that.

axeattack422
06-05-2003, 04:25 AM
i like opeth.........but not for the metal end but more the dynamics and the mood the songs sets.........and there lead singer can sing and scream with the best of um

deftones
06-05-2003, 04:23 PM
yes, Mikael has an awsome voice, i didnt believe that it was the same person when i first started listening to opeth.

N D
06-05-2003, 11:49 PM
OPETH RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! their an amazing band. Other great songs (atleast in my opinion) that werent mentiond already are Demon of the Fall, Serenity Painted Death, Nectar, The Moor and Moonlapse Vertigo.

N D
06-05-2003, 11:51 PM
Also when they play live they just use an electric guitar to play the acoustic parts by changing the distortion. I dont know if they always do that but its what i saw them do live.

deftones
06-06-2003, 03:06 PM
black rose immortal, another good song. anything by them is good.

Mettra
06-17-2003, 12:28 AM
Wow. I'm glad I found this thread. I found an Opeth CD and downloaded a few mp3's from the other one (which I will definitely be buying), and they are absolutely awesome. This is a band that truly understands music. I have not heard one song yet that I do not absolutely love.

The point is - Opeth is awesome! Go buy the CD's!:D

deftones
06-17-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Mettra
The point is - Opeth is awesome! Go buy the CD's!:D

the man speaks in sooth.

N D
06-17-2003, 11:38 PM
Mettra what cd did u get and which one ar u gettin? and if niether of them are blackwater park i suggest u listin to it i just got it and its great.

Black Star
06-25-2003, 03:55 AM
Demon of the fall......

Mettra
06-25-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by N D
Mettra what cd did u get and which one ar u gettin? and if niether of them are blackwater park i suggest u listin to it i just got it and its great.

I found Blackwater Park and heard some songs from Deliverance. I have gotten a few more since and will just probably buy just all of theird CD's :D.

And, yes, Demon of the Fall is one of the most spectacular songs I have ever heard.

N D
06-25-2003, 09:48 PM
I love Demon of the Fall it was the first song i heard from them and it got me hooked.

deftones
06-26-2003, 02:27 PM
the first song i heard by them that got me hooked was blackwater park. 12+ mins of pure metal goodness.

oh and demons of the fall is an awsome song live, i saw opeth play a month ago and that was their encore song. oh my god, so good. i love opeth, there need to be more opeth fans.

DarkStar
07-10-2003, 04:19 PM
Great Band For all metalheads out there!!!! :D

Blackwater_Park
07-22-2003, 04:41 AM
Obviously I like opeth :D

Blackwater Park was the album that first interested me in the metal genre, and since i have drawn many people to the dark side ;)

I now own every CD of theirs and would have to say for songwriting, musicianship, vocals and production they rank up there in my absolute favourite bands ever.

sewerhobo
08-13-2003, 10:23 AM
Opeth rock!!! When I first heard them I hated it, but now I love em. :D

deftones
08-13-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by DarkStar
Great Band For all metalheads out there!!!! :D

great band for anyone that likes music that doesnt suck, period.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 03:20 AM
Old post, but I must say that Opeth is the reason why I've decided to look into picking up a guitar. They simply amaze me. Easily my favorite band and that first solo in Godhead's Lament, hoo boy. :D

danmaftei
08-24-2003, 01:07 PM
Opeth is my favorite band, but too many people think BWP is their best album. It's not, it's definitely one of their worst. Not to say it's bad, but compared to their first three... The thing is, BWP is the most beautiful, most complex, most emotional accessible metal album I've ever heard in a long long time. But once you really "get" My Arms, Your HEarse and Morningirse and Orchid, they'll blow BWP away.

Plus, BWP uses the same formulas over and over again. Besides The Leper Affinity and The Funeral Portrait, I can't say the album is a good representation of Opeth.

Anyways, here are my favorite albums in order:

Morningrise
My Arms, Your Hearse
Orchid
Still Life
Blackwater Park
Deliverance
Damnation

And favorite songs:

1 - Black Rose Immortal (absolutely amazing, favorite metal song ever)
2 - The Night and the Silent Water (if anyone doesn't like this song there's something wrong with you)
3 - April Ethereal
4 - When
5 - Forest of October
6 - Demon of the Fall
7 - The Leper Affinity
8 - Godhead's Lament
9 - In the Mist She Was Standing
10 - The Funeral Portrait

If you don't agree with me you're wrong. :D

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 06:36 PM
Still Life, IMO, is the greatest piece of work Opeth have ever done. First of all, each song distinguishes itself from the others making each track very unique and so on. Morningrise and Orchid were FAR too drawn out for 90% of the world's musical patience. Mike's vocals improved greatly from Morningrise to Still Life(both clean and death vox). My Arms, Your Hearse...while amazing(what Opeth album isn't?) was slightly repetetive when you speak in terms of Opeth. Just my take on things though, even though I love every piece they've put out.;)

ibleedmarshall
08-24-2003, 06:45 PM
well, you all, with all your praise of Opeth, I think I'm gonna have to check them out myself.

I'm on a tight budget now, so if I were to only get one Opeth album, which should it be, and why. I know they do a bunch of styles, and I think I'd lean towards heavy, but let me know

Thanks!

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 07:07 PM
Still Life or My Arms Your Hearse....MAYH is going to be the easiest to find as it's been released a few times stateside. MAYH has not 1 song over 10 minutes so it will be one of the easiest to get into. Whatever you do, DON'T buy Damnation as it is a CD chocked full of lighter stuff. If you want a bunch of good metal, get Still Life, MAYH, or Blackwater Park.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 07:10 PM
Sorry for the near spam amount of messages on this Opeth thread being the fanboy I am, but have PATIENCE when you listen. Have a lot of it, and be armed with an open mind.

danmaftei
08-24-2003, 07:50 PM
ibleedmarshall, if you want heavy get Deliverance or BWP. You'll definitely like it but then again you'll become a BWP-bitch and the other albums are much better ('cept Deliverance). The thing is it's very hard to get into MAYH or Morningrise, etc. So just get BWP, you'll like it. And then get all the rest. :)

@ DontHaveAGuitar, I beg to differ. Morningrise is not too drawn out at all. Everytime there was a poll on the best Opeth album back on the boards, Morningrise came out second (never fist, too many BWP-lovers, argh). But yeah, Still Life IS amazing. It hasn't fully settled in, but I do like it a lot. The concept story is noway near as cool as MAYH's though. :)

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 09:11 PM
Actually you misunderstood me. It's too far drawn out for 90% of the world's musical patience. But for people with a true passion for progressive music, Morningrise was nothing short of a masterpiece. And the only reason BWP is a lot of people's favorite is because it broke the most ground commercially and it was the majority of people's first taste of Opeth. Therefore it has that nostalgic feel and blahblahblah etc. But regardless, no matter which Opeth album you buy, you won't be disappointed because each album displays almost illegal amounts of talent, if that's possible.

ibleedmarshall
08-24-2003, 09:27 PM
ok cool, I'm gonna go and buy some Opeth this weekend when I'm back home!

danmaftei
08-24-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by DontHaveAGuitar
Actually you misunderstood me. It's too far drawn out for 90% of the world's musical patience. But for people with a true passion for progressive music, Morningrise was nothing short of a masterpiece. And the only reason BWP is a lot of people's favorite is because it broke the most ground commercially and it was the majority of people's first taste of Opeth. Therefore it has that nostalgic feel and blahblahblah etc. But regardless, no matter which Opeth album you buy, you won't be disappointed because each album displays almost illegal amounts of talent, if that's possible.

Ahh, true. It's too bad, progressive music should be appreciated more. I still can't believe how many people at my school haven't even HEARD of ELP or King Crimson or Rush. Then I mention metal and they give me the anti-Christ symbol. Bastards. :rolleyes:

DontHaveAGuitar
08-24-2003, 11:42 PM
Haha. I had a pretty devout Christian girlfriend not too long ago and she hated it when I played anything with death vocals. It was satanic...:confused: And yes, progressive music is overlooked.

danmaftei
08-25-2003, 12:17 AM
Too bad Opeth isn't Satanic in the slightest. :D Too many misconceptions about metal. =/

DontHaveAGuitar
08-25-2003, 01:50 AM
Mikael has actually expressed anti-Christian beliefs in a few interviews, but their music is far from relating to anything of the sort.

mikemet
08-25-2003, 08:14 PM
I think Opeth is very interesting musically and not afraid to go in different directions.....like the acoustic cd. but the vocals SUCK!! i know i'll get flamed for that but that's my opinion.:D

DontHaveAGuitar
08-25-2003, 11:45 PM
Mikael has one of the best clean voices in music today in my opinion. And the best death because he uses emotion and doesn't scream just for the sake of screaming. His vocals are very emotionally driven. But yeah, I can understand why a lot of people don't like death vocals.

deftones
08-26-2003, 03:13 AM
i can understand the harsher vocals, i hated them too when i first started listening to opeth, but they grew on my very quickly. but the clean vocals, you cant diss those, they are above par.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 03:24 AM
His growls are comprehensible too, which makes them a bit more tolerable when you know what he's saying. Not asking yourself "What the @!%$ did he just say?" is a plus.

Blackwater_Park
08-26-2003, 04:28 AM
Ibleedmarshall, if you're looking to buy an album, it really depends on what you like better. If you're a fan of old-school metal, ie - twin guitar harmonies and lower-budget production, get Morningrise, or maybe Orchid. My Arms Your Hearse is kinda like a transition from their old style to their newer style. The newer style is tighter, with much more production and more complexity. Still Life, their next CD, continued to increase in complexity, until Blackwater Park, which was different altogether. BWP used amazingly intricate melodies and instrumentation, and featured top-notch production thanks to Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree. Personally BWP is my favourite, not because I heard it first or it's nostalgic, simply because it's best. Deliverance came next, and was almost an extension of BWP, but heavier. On the whole it wasn't quite as good, although still a brilliant album. Damnation is different altogether; it's not metal, but more of a softer Opeth. Fans of Opeth will still recognize their songwriting style but in Damnation it's much more subdued. Don't listen to the naysayers, Damnation is a masterpiece, but best to be enjoyed after you're familiar with their other works.

My final recommendation?

Buy Blacwater Park - it'll give you an excellent all-around taste of the music. Just don't stop there, because when you've heard one album, you certainly HAVEN'T heard them all. And they're all brilliant.

Funny, ever since I started listening to Opeth they've been growing in popularity. They're now bestsellers in the metal section of a local music store, I see references to them on music channels and magaizines, and just about every message board I visit has an ongoing post about Opeth (seriously)! :D

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 04:52 AM
Yeah I got into Opeth a bit after BWP was released, but heard Still Life first. And their popularity has grown exponentially since then. I must say that while BWP has better instrumentals, a lot of the tracks truly are reminiscent(sp?) of each other. For example...I can never tell the difference between The Leper Affinity and The Drapery Falls if the song is somewhere in the middle simply because they do sound so much alike. The Funeral Portrait has some of the coolest soloing ever by Opeth, though. Truly a shame that they restrain a lot. Bleak, in my opinion, is also probably one of the worst Opeth songs(second only to Dirge for November, also on BWP).

danmaftei
08-26-2003, 11:36 AM
How about this, get BWP first. You're giong to listen to it once and fall in love with it.

After about two weeks of listening to it nonstop (and you will listen to it non-stop you won't be able to help it), you'll get bored of it and realize how one-dimensional it is, get MAYH or Morningrise. I've had those CDs for about a year and still listen to them more than any other CD I own.

deftones
08-26-2003, 02:10 PM
i fail to see how anyone can get bored of an opeth cd.

Blackwater_Park
08-26-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by danmaftei
How about this, get BWP first. You're giong to listen to it once and fall in love with it.

After about two weeks of listening to it nonstop (and you will listen to it non-stop you won't be able to help it), you'll get bored of it and realize how one-dimensional it is, get MAYH or Morningrise. I've had those CDs for about a year and still listen to them more than any other CD I own.

Uh, I don't know what you're listening to, but Morningrise has far less dimension than BWP. They use less instruments, less overdubbing, and Mike's growling isn't as good.

And Donthaveaguitar, Bleak is not a bad song!! It's one of their best! How many bands use acoustic and overdriven guitars at the same time? I'm not a huge fan of Dirge for November, but Bleak is awesome (includes vocals from Steven Wilson). If all you're after is heavy music, maybe you should listen to Bloodbath or something because Opeth is about dynamics, and that includes music that isn't heavy.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 06:02 PM
Response to Blackwater...Bleak isn't at all one of Opeth's best songs. Steven Wilson...ehh. The fact that they had him appear on the album at all is a good indication that they were pressed for time / ideas and Steven happened to be a good vocalist and there at the time. I like a good debate but...the same vocal sections for about 5 minutes straight is NOT good Opeth, sorry. It doesn't matter how many bands use acoustic and overdriven guitars...we're talking specifically Opeth here man. Opeth rushed BWP and Deliverance and the song structure shows that. It's nowhere near as creative as Morningrise was(not to say that they weren't great albums). In the session diary for BWP and Deliverance Mikael says that Lindgren wrote his solos in the studio and Mikael himself wrote a lot of material in the studio. You're definitely right on the vocals though. The clean and growled vocals showed amazing progression between MAYH and Morningrise. BWP doesn't compare to Morningrise because Morningrise was something personal to Mikael and such, he had much more inspiration to do the album. I dunno, it's all opinion and when I type this it looks like I don't enjoy BWP(i love the album). It seems the people who appreciate BWP more than Morningrise like metal more than they like music. Blackwater Park did show a lot of progression in talent though for the guys, because the solos on BWP are incredible in my opinion.

To Deftones...I totally agree. It is very hard to get bored of an Opeth cd, however such songs as Bleak and Dirge for November do get pretty repetetive. The aforementioned repeat vocal sections in Bleak coupled with the fact that Dirge was not at all a complicated song in comparison to Opeth's other material. (It was basically 2 pieces of(acoustic) bread and one pissed off piece of meat.) Other songs display much more complexity. Blackwater Park is just all around a less consistant album than say Still Life or Morningrise.

To Dan...That's a pretty good idea. Though I'd suggest working backwards in order from Blackwater Park, since it is the most accessible. And then get Deliverance and Damnation last as they are the two extremes of Opeth's work to date.

Closing comments. It's always good to have a debate with people who don't get overly defensive about their opinions, and I'm glad I found that here. :)

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 06:07 PM
Also Blackwater...I love Bloodbath but I'm not after only heavy music. This should be apparent when Still Life is my favorite Opeth album and the second softest(two nearly entire acoustic full length tracks and much more clean sections). The light segments are one of the reasons that I like Opeth so much.

Blackwater_Park
08-26-2003, 07:31 PM
Deliverance and BWP were rushed, but Mikael himself has admitted that he works best under pressure. Don't get me wrong, Morningrise is a great album, but it's very raw, unpolished, and the song structures aren't as coherent.

For example, take Black Rose Immortal. The song has no structure, every time one section is finished, there's a silence, then the new riff or vocals or whatever just come crashing in. On the whole the album is not as fluid. Now look at a song like Funeral Portrait - it's just as diverse, but the separate parts are woven together and near the end of the song we're brought back to the beginning, and it ties it up nicely. Dirge for November is the only exception on BWP, and I've never really liked it anyway. But all the other songs - Leper Affinity, Drapery Falls, Blackwater Park, they all show a level of coherence and fluidity that the band was only beginning to touch upon in Still Life. Deliverance was similar, but there was something about that album I just didn't like as much, I don't know what it was...

Also BWP had far better instrumetntation. On Orchid and Morningrise, the drums were bland and uneventful, the guitars were muddier with less clarity, and the bass they used sounded pretty bad, I can think of a few instances where the bassline makes me cringe, it has this goofy sounding twang to it. From Still Life on, they improved so much. On BWP, the drums are excellent, and on Deliverance, they're beyond excellent. The bass now sounds more integrated, and the guitars are crisper and clearer. Steven Wilson was icing on the cake, not for his vocals, but for his involvement in production, which now featured decent sounding pianos (Sillohuette had the worst piano..), and lots of experimenting with Ebows and synths and the like, never to an obtrusive level, but again, integrated fluidly into the mix.

Like I said, none of their albums are bad, the opposite: all are amazing, but from every musical angle I can think of, Blackwater Park excels.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 08:35 PM
Yeah BWP had better instrumentals, save the bass...I loved it when the bass was prominent even if it didn't have the best sound. It's human nature to excel in something you practice so often. However when it comes to diversity BWP is just not. I mean yes it has a guest vocalist that adds a bit of spice...and the same old acoustic segment followed by a crescendo into a heavy part, and vice versa but that becomes predictable and is not the essence of Opeth. Mikael said it himself the essence of Opeth is to surprise the listener. Crescendos spoil the surprise which is why the abrupt shifts in pitch / tempo on Morningrise were so cool. Morningrise just seems so natural that those abrupt shifts seem smooth. Morningrise takes a LOT of time to weave it's magic as to where Blackwater Park and Deliverance take only a few spins and you're hooked. I have a feeling that debating about the best Opeth album is much like debating whether a God exists or not...there is no solid proof one way or the other.


Moving on...but staying on the subject of Opeth. Anyone know a site that sells Opeth logo picks? I'm in love with that O. :D

Blackwater_Park
08-26-2003, 10:33 PM
It's like deciding which one of your children you like best..

But on the subject of crescendos, Still Life always kinda bothered me in that aspect, because I always listen with headphones, so when there's silence, then BOOM the guitars come in, it hurts the ears. I always appreciated the transitions.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-26-2003, 10:40 PM
Still Life had crescendos...so how did it bother you in that aspect? Unless you made a typo or I read wrong.

danmaftei
08-26-2003, 11:26 PM
OK I don't want to get into an argument here because I've already had enough of these and I'm entirely sick of them. I will say this:

Morningrise focuses on being as raw and as emotional as possible. Blackwater Park uses too many studio-driven effects for my taste. The only songs which I can honestly listen to over and over again are The Leper Affinity and The Funeral Portrait. The rest are good, but they are simply cool riffs. It's too packed, too well-produced, too (and I'll hate myself for saying this) commercial.

I do think BWP was a goood album for their CAREER because half of the current Opeth fans are fans because of BWP but I wish they'd open their eyes to the emotion of Morningrise, MAYH, and Orchid.

Blackwater_Park
08-27-2003, 12:32 AM
I didn't make a typo. Still Life had crescendos but it also had alot of blunt on/off transitions.

And as for Morningrise, it may have the emotion, but really all that translates to is a lot of corny whispering (I hate the whispering), and long slow acoustic passages. Blackwater Park, with all it's studio sound, is more interesting to listen to.

People need to realize that music is music, and just because it's produced doesn't mean it lacks what low-budget music doesn't, it simply means that it can sound better and more varied.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-27-2003, 08:30 PM
Still Life had a lot of emotionally driven vocals...Mike sounds absolutely miserable(emotionally) on Face of Melinda. And the lines "Darkness reared it's head...tearing within the reeling haze..." on Serenity Painted Death are very packed with emotion as well. *shrug* It's all personal preference after all. But Dan...I mean with success comes the ability to get a much better production so it WILL sound a bit commercial. In no way do I think Opeth is going for the commercial sound. I mean all commercial stuff has crystal clear production simply because it's commercial and that's where the money is. If you look at the songwriting though, it's the same style as MAYH and after. A band's evolution is inevitable.

danmaftei
08-27-2003, 09:08 PM
Well I'd like to clear up a few things first. I'm not saying that BWP was a bad album, or that Mikael shouldn't have written it. I also realize that a band will progress (and Opeth is a progressive metal band so go figure). The thing is I don't find BWP enjoyable. It's something different, in terms of production, songwriting, vocals, etc. Plus Steven Wilson did backing vocals, some guitars, keys, and production so a lot of Porcupine Tree can be found in the album (well not a lot but some).

The reason I don't like it is because the songwriting seems a bit one-dimensional. It's the same type of sound over and over again. Not that the riffs are bad, I love almost all of them, it's that the overall sound the riffs produces is the same on a lot of the songs.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-27-2003, 10:38 PM
I find that the songs sound a lot the same particularly true when you compare The Leper Affinity and The Drapery Falls...said that before. And yeah, BWP is something different...I like it but it's tracks just don't distinguish themselves like on Morningrise or Still Life. Even Deliverance's tracks were very different from one another. BWP had one thing that I loved though, which was Harvest. It's perhaps the closest thing to an upbeat song Opeth have done.

danmaftei
08-27-2003, 10:56 PM
Yeah, I love Leper Affinity too. It's one of my favorite Opeth songs. And the piano part at the end is so beautiful.

About Harvest, I guess it's kind of upbeat, but it's about lying in your deathbed. :)

The Funeral Portrait, Leper Affinity, and BWP are all about hating people.

That's what Mikael said, but the only song you can figure this out by yourself (from the lyrics) is The Funeral Portrait. It's pretty blatant.

Blackwater_Park
08-27-2003, 11:00 PM
Drapery Falls is about hating people as well :p

I agree that BWP does have kind of a 'feeling' that's definetly there in all of the songs, but that's why I like it. Actually, every album does, really. I can instantly recognize a Still Life song by the type of progressions they use, the vocal style, etc, same with pretty much every album.

And I'd say their most upbeat song is Ending Credits, off of Damnation.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-28-2003, 05:01 AM
Give me 5 seconds with any Still Life song(as long as it's not a pause) and I could tell...not so with BWP, though I do listen to BWP a lot less. But at first, Moonlapse Vertigo and Godhead's Lament sounded a lot alike to me. Maybe I'm going insane.

Blackwater_Park
08-28-2003, 02:46 PM
The songs in Still Life are placed deliberately. The end of The Moor, for example, is exactly the same as the beginning of Godhead's Lament - same key, even some of the same notes. The last two songs on the album are the same way.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-29-2003, 07:54 AM
Funny observation...Blackwater Park and Wreath are basically the same song structure except with the soft interlude at the end of Wreath and beginning of BWP.

danmaftei
08-29-2003, 11:20 AM
Wreath is the best song off Deliverance. :)

Anyways, that's yet another reason why I'm anxious for the new "occult" Opeth album. I want to be done with this BWP/Deliverance era. Although Damnation was kickass. And it was #192 on the Billboard 200. :eek:

Blackwater_Park
08-29-2003, 12:29 PM
I don't think there's going to be an occult album. It was just a musing, it wasn't fact. And personally I'm glad that Opeth isn't into all this corny Satanic ****, it would just ruin them. Leave the stupid makeup and Satan voices to goofy bands like Dimmu Borgir.

danmaftei
08-29-2003, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty sure it'll happen. First of all when Mikael asked the Martins what they felt about doing a dark black metal album they went crazy and loved it. Also it's a great way for Opeth to get into black metal further. What's a progressive band that doesn't progress?

Oh and finally at a concert Mikael jokingly said, before playing Demon of the Fall, "THis next song is dedicated to our Lord Satan" and the crowd went crazy and MIkael thought that was pretty cool. :)

I'm almost positive it will happen. Plus it doens't have to be Satanic it can just be black metal music.

DontHaveAGuitar
08-29-2003, 06:28 PM
I honestly don't care if Opeth starts worshipping Allah or any other deity(:rolleyes: ) as long as they keep making top notch tunes.

Blackwater_Park
09-05-2003, 03:05 AM
Hey ibleedmarshall did you ever end up getting a CD?

C130
09-05-2003, 07:06 AM
Well, I just got Damnation I wonder how it'll be...

DontHaveAGuitar
09-05-2003, 08:10 AM
C130...70's prog rockish all the way on Damnation.

N D
09-05-2003, 06:23 PM
I just got Damnation to and i like it alot.

guitar
09-06-2003, 04:22 PM
where can you get there cd

N D
09-06-2003, 06:07 PM
I dont know about the US but around where i live the only store that i can find Opeth is at an HMV store.

Griffin_Page
09-06-2003, 06:07 PM
This is awesome, I didn't expect there'd be that many Opeth fans here... however they are an awesome band.

guitar
09-06-2003, 06:09 PM
tnx nd

N D
09-06-2003, 06:10 PM
no problem hope that helps.

danmaftei
09-06-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by guitar
where can you get there cd

www.theendrecords.com

Best metal store ever. You can even find backcopies and remastered Orchid and Morningrise albums.

ibleedmarshall
09-13-2003, 11:36 PM
I bought "Blackwater Park" today, and wow, it's really really good....

Blackwater_Park
09-13-2003, 11:51 PM
Haha.. success!!

ibleedmarshall
09-14-2003, 01:23 AM
yes definetly, I was afraid you all were hyping it up, but I was pleasanly surprised to learn that it was backed up....

DontHaveAGuitar
09-14-2003, 02:01 AM
From here, you should work your way backwards...Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse, Morningrise, and Orchid respectively. I could burn a couple songs on a cd and send it your way if you're pressed for cash.

Blackwater_Park
09-14-2003, 02:27 AM
I'd say maybe Deliverance and then still life, my arms, and so forth. Damnation you should probably listen to last.

DontHaveAGuitar
09-14-2003, 03:12 AM
IMO Deliverance isn't worth the money.

Blackwater_Park
09-14-2003, 04:14 AM
It's no Blackwater Park, but it definately grew on me. The main problem with Deliverance is the intros. Wreath, Masters Apprentices, A Fair Judgement and By The Pain... all have lousy intros and then pick up as the song gets going, so at a quick listen, it doesn't seem a very good album. 'Deliverance' is the only song that's good start to finish.

ibleedmarshall
09-14-2003, 04:22 AM
No, I'm cool on cash, and I'll probably go back in a week or two to buy another album...

Thanks for introducing me to another awesome band!

Blackwater_Park
09-14-2003, 04:28 AM
It's the band that everybody likes.

DontHaveAGuitar
09-14-2003, 07:15 PM
Yeah Deliverance is by far the best song off the album. Though the solo on A Fair Judgement is just amazing. I recently learned the opening riff to Master's Apprentices. I think that song has a great intro :) A bit easy to play but the riff is awesome. And Wreath's opening has some of the coolest double bass by Martin. But yeah, it doesn't compare to stuff like BWP / Still Life / Morningrise. It's not as diverse, obviously...since it's an album that focuses on the heavy side of things. Still really good though.

nickliss59
09-17-2003, 06:14 PM
Id have to say A Fair Judgement is the best song of Deliverance it is genius in my opinion and i like how it starts out slow and moody.

danmaftei
09-18-2003, 06:18 PM
Wreath is the only good song off Deliverance. The rest are very subpar Opeth, save maybe A Fair Judgment, just because the solo is really cool. The rest is too... commercial, in a way. Still good songs but Opeth can do so much better.

But that doesn't change the fact that Wreath = teh 00832 pwn493

Mettra
09-18-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by danmaftei
But that doesn't change the fact that Wreath = teh 00832 pwn493

For those of you that don't understand 1337 speak, he said 'uber ownage'.

Heh.

I agree about the album and about Wreath, btw.

DontHaveAGuitar
09-19-2003, 12:14 AM
:confused: The title track is awesome man. Maybe not the best of guitar work but it's still really good. Wreath is a bit exhausting...12 minutes of absolute brutality. Really great drumming though.

danmaftei
09-19-2003, 07:42 PM
It takes some hard listening to really get into Wreath, much like MAYH and BRI. :)

DontHaveAGuitar
09-20-2003, 10:30 AM
I like it, but it's just exhausting to me. A bit of musical whiplash :)

I_Must_Destroy
09-30-2003, 06:18 PM
wow...a lot of posts about opeth! i have listened to them for a while now. i have 2 of their cds, orchid and blackwater park. i am a huge metalhead myself, but i usually enjoy their lighter stuff better. the heavy stuff opeth usually does is not as well written as their melodies. i am not a big fan of their first cd at all, to be honest. some of the songs just go on TOO long, and some even sound like 4 or 5 different songs on the same track. some of the orhicd songs just dont flow together. my cd player is broken so unfortunatley i havnet got to listen to their cds that much. but i do enjoy blackwater park, and am looking forward to listening to their other cds.

p.s. demon of the fall is the first song i heard by them:D

m.oleary
10-22-2003, 12:11 PM
erm..Opeth F***in rule end of story

Haplo
10-24-2003, 11:25 AM
wow, nice to see more Opeth fans here....they truly have the most incredible sound in any kind of Rock today.

Right behind Led Zeppelin they stand as my favorite band of all time (and luckily, Ackerfeldt and Lindgren are both Zep fans!. And the thing is...I don't even really like metal, I've always been partial to classic rock, but Opeth is something just so different from every other metal band. I had all but two of their cd's (My Arms, Your Hearse, and Orchid) and they were all stolen with most of my other cd's when some punk made off with my cd wallet....sigh, time to rebuild I guess...

Anyways, of their two newest albums, Deliverance was great with it's raw sound craziness...while Deliverance has to be the most haunting and beautiful piece of music I've ever listened to!