Metal...

[Din]

Just wanted to ask people what Metal bands they liked. I'm guessing the majority or going to say Limp Bizkit, Papa roach, Linkin Park (I don't like any of them Nu- metal is pretty crap)

I'm into Slayer, Slipknot (My fav. band I know alot of people don't like Slipknot) and others...

So who do you like?

[Schecter_dude]

Hey, man, Nu-metal is crap in YOUR opinion. I happen to like P-Roach a helluva lot... as well as Slipknot, Slayer, Amen, etc.

I also like SOAD, AAF, Deftones... as well as... umm... Eric Clapton, Santana, The Eagles, ELO...

[ZakNafien]

I'll list some of the bands i like (this might take awhile)

Marilyn Manson
Dimmu Borgir
Cradle Of Filth
Disturbed
Rammstein
Godhead
Slipknot
System Of A Down
Black Label Society
Ozzy Osbourne
Black Sabbath
Scorpions
Guns'N'Roses
Queensryche
Orgy
Queens Of The Stone-Age
No Doubt
Garbage (old stuff)
Megadeth
Iron Maiden
White Zombie
Rob Zombie
Static-X
Wraith
Bolt Thrower
Liquid Angel
D-Rok
Faith No More
Led Zeppelin
ZZ Top
Coal Chamber
Blessed Be Thy Name
Alice Cooper
Greenday
Offspring
Nosferatu
Nirvana
Ugly Kid Joe
Aero Smith
AC/DC
Slash's Snakepit
Nine Inch Nails
Jack Off Jill
Napalm Death
Utah Saints
Mudvayne
Fear Factory
Slayer
Mortiis
Amen
Spineshank
Tool
Union Underground


Ok thats a long list and i doubt thats anywhere near everything from my collection but it's all i can think of off the top of my head.

i wont mention what bands really piss me off as the people who are new to the scene will probably try to linch me!

Zak

[Slash]

i'll put in my 2 cents worth...

I just got out of my Pearl Jam(ok not classifed as metal but hard rock maybe) phase and as of now I really LOVE Dreamtheater,(esp. Petrucci) and thats my no. 1. Ive also gone thru phases where bands like Iced earth, Maiden, Creed , sabbath, , Actrus,Blind Gaurdian,Edge of sanity, Cradle of filth,Opeth, Theater of tragedy, were in the fore.

Etc....

What are u guys listening to now? Dont just give metal stuff...

[smfulla]

Umm technically this is just a metal thread
soo I dunno why that dude put garbage or no doubt or FNM
or offspring or green day.

My fav METAL bands are:
Old MetallicA
Megadeth
Slipknot
Slayer
Pantera
Rhapsody
Sonata Arctica
Joe Satriani (technically some of joe satriani's stuff is metal)

Those are my favourites

I don't JUST listen to metal tho, I listen to all sorts =] Incl. classical

[Tony_Iommi]

Bah, Nu-metal is just pop music with guitars in dropped C# Tuning. (isnt slipknot 'numetal', btw?)

But i like stuff like:
Black Sabbath
DIO
Iron Maiden
Dream Theater
Ozzy Osbourne
Hammerfall
GammaRay
Deep Purple
Helloween

and the likes.

Hey, here's one... You guys ever heard of Stormwitch? I've only heard the Hammerfall cover of RavenLord and "Stranger" (I think it is)... they sound pretty good.

[F-art]

I also tought that slipknot was nu-metal. But hey, who am I.

Just one question, I am not gonna name al those metalbands everyone named, cauz yeah, I like them too. But why hasn't anyone put Iced earth in the fav band section????

I know that they are not that bigga deal in the US, but here in Europe they have quite a fanbase, so maybe it is time for US-peeps to start listening to them. Thechnically they have a very high quality of playing, wether you like them or not, and I think the have a pretty refreshing style in comparison with those nu-metal bands. So therefore, my favourate metal band is:

ICED EARTH

[slaughteredsoul]

Metallica.

[smfulla]

Yeah Iced Earth have ability, its just I don't really like them =] Btw I'm not in the US either.

In New Zealand (where I live) there is only a small amount of people into Metal bands, most of those being Nu-metal =/ I personally don't like it, I personally think it's a disgrace to the word metal, but in anycase, ppl still like it. They get sum good chord progressions going =]]]]] (note metal is usually about the riffs =]) And sum nice little lead melodies going over those ever so catchy chord progressions with the vocals taking over everything else =] There music ability is high as, they're probably all good musicians, its just that they can't write riffs =/

And yeah!!!!!! Go slaughteredsoul!!!! Metallica!!!! =] The honest to god true founders of speed and thrash metal!!!! =] Then slayer and megadeth came in and had good competition with metallica. Then metallica just moved out of the competition and into a new area and took over that =] (Being heavy metal)
Hehe, I really am a metal head.

[Tony_Iommi]

Heh. Black Sabbath, in my opinion always were and always will be the lords of heavy metal. (of course, you coulda guessed my opinion by my user name..heh..). I never liked any of Metallica's stuff... except this cover of "Fade to Black" by Steel Prophet.
Also, Smfulla, i agree with you about new metal. ;p

[Schecter_dude]

Sorry... who said mu-metal was pop music? And Drop-C? Hey, Nu-Metal is just a generic term someone thought up for rock bands of today. And... alright, a lotta the bands today DO use lower-than-whale-droppings tunings, but not all. Personally, I never drop my guitar below Drop-D... on one occasion it was dropped to C, but there's just no need for that...

[slaughteredsoul]

I still say Metallica.

[Schecter_dude]

Don't get me wrong... I love Metallica as well.

[slaughteredsoul]

Even though i'm not into Limp bizkit or Linkin Park or whatever you'd like to classify as Nu-Metal...i think each band has talents,even if they can't write decent songs or lyrics.
Like fred durst has a great voice but in my opinion,his music is very manufactured...i have a crazy itch to diss the hell outta Limp Bizkit but we all have something to say about each band,wether its Nu-metal or not.
Many people want the old metallica,think Slipknot should stop screaming and start singing,wish death on Linkin Park...at the end,to each his own.You dont have to listen to anything you dont like.

[smfulla]

well said slaughteredsoul
but we are just voicing our opinions on the subject matter. I would rather have my opinion heard than have a sore arse and be a fence sitter. So I say I think Limp Bizkit sucks, I also reckon Linkin Park sucks, and I also think slipknot should stop screaming. Also, technically metallica's new stuff isn't metal. It's more rock/alternative/mellow stuff. I like the mellow stuff that metallica does, it's just that it's not metal and this is a metal post =]

[newguy]

DDIIIIIOOOOO!!! Dio is as awesome as they come and i'm probably the only 14 year old alive who appreciates him and other "old bands" like Iron Maiden and Metallica. (If I ask a kid at school who sang seek and destroy or fight fire with fire they would be like "i dunno." but of course when i mention enter sandman they're like "oh, yeah that's metallica!") ::sigh::

[smfulla]

Yeah dude, I know what you're talking about
I asked this kid at my school if he was a metal head, and he said yeah!!!!
I then asked him "Who plays The Four Horsemen?"
He said "I dunno"
I then asked him what his favourite bands are, and he goes...
Metallica, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, P.O.D.
I asked him if he knew who Slayer was, and he said "Nah"
hehe
oh well

[slaughteredsoul]

No need to say that younger kids are very easily influenced by what's constantly played on radio and T.V,i guess untalented bands(please don't bash-just a personal opinion:D ) such as linkin park and the such target to dominate the tastes of youngsters...Even the music videos-if u have noticed- are all converging towards a single topic: the "party scene" with the chicks and all.
Unless those kids are brought up by parents who are into more mature bands(lyrically and musically) or they accidently trip over better bands, those are the bands they're constantly gonna answer you with.
i'm not saying kids have no taste in music,but they're just not introduced to the right kind of music,and with the right advertising,those kids will drink/eat/watch/listen to ANYTHING!

[Problem Child]

Oh yeah, I know this too well.
At my school everybody is into Nu-Metal or Hip-Hop, and I'm the only one who has an idea what rock actually is. It's really bad... I once asked everybody in my class if they knew Stairway To Heaven and there was only one person who knew it (and he's into German punk). I thought to myself, that maybe the song was too old and went around asking the same question about Master of Puppets. Again only that German punk dude knew about it. Even the "Metallica fans" in my class didn't know it, coz they only got the later albums like Load or Re-load :eek:. I got really frustrated that day... All they know is Marylin Mason, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Nickelback and Godsmack (what a s--t). I live in a godless country.
Oh yeah, just to make this clear: these folks are all 17 years old, not 10.

:(

[smfulla]

I'm NOT 10!!!! =]]]]]]
I'm 15!!!!!! =]]]]]
and this kid was 15

[Phil]

Well I’m 21(oops turned 22 the other day, lol) and I’m a huge fun of almost anything Rock/Alternative/Metal (with the occasional exception). I really think that this term "New Metal" is being used to the detriment of the Metal genre as a whole. For way too many years now Metal has been in the shadow of pop and it’s been awful. This so-called new metal is great for the genre because it’s finally getting some metal bands back into the mainstream of music. Although a lot of Metal purists have a problem with the likes of Linkin Park and Slipknot I applaud them. I like what they do and don’t feel that they are in anyway “selling out”. I have recently moved the UK and a number of bands that hadn’t really had enough exposure here, like Bio Hazard, Machinehead and Pantera, are finally getting some air time on commercial Radio and Television due to the recent rise in the interest in metal music. This can only be good for Metal as a whole IMHO.
As for Corey (Slipknot) stopping the screaming and starting to sing, I think that would be the worst move the group could ever possibly make. Their sound is defined by his voices and I really would hate to see him change his vocal style. I know that when you hear songs like Wait and bleed you can here he has a pretty good Metal “singing” voice but that contrasts well with his very heavy vocal style.

[Schecter_dude]

I totally agree. While I am a huge fan of the above mentioned "nu-metal" bands (16 year old here), I am also a big fan of those who kicked it all off. I have to say though, my school is a different place- almost everyone who likes rock knows who did Stairway to Heaven (I'm in fact learning it at the moment).

But yes, metal (indeed, all kinds of rock) has been overpowered by the kid-brainwashing power of pop. With bands such as Papa Roach, Linkin Park, etc, releasing their stuff into the same mainstream market, metal and rock are being promoted greatly, which is sure to be good for all us rockers :)

Plus I kinda like Slipknot...

[smfulla]

I don't class slipknot as nu-metal
they're like different from everything, but thats only coz they have alot of stuff in it. My fav guy in slipknot is the dude with the BC Rich Warlock =]. He's got the baddest position for play his guitar.
Neway, I don't think that it's the metal world that people are getting exposed to. Becoz nu-metal has a VERY fine line between being pop and metal, I think people are tending towards the pop side of it. Mainly because it incorporates everything that is popular at present. DJ's, rappers + vocalists, and supposedly the 'right format' for making songs.
The only real metal thing about it is the guitar and bass. Because the drums have this sort of 'pop' or 'ting' to them that just ain't metal.
And I mean there is no real metal vocalist in band's such as Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit. Coz well fred durst has a girly voice when he sings but he can do an alright growl, and the linkin park dude can sing, but his voice isn't 'aged'. I mean it doesn't sound like he's experienced anything.
Just my view on it

[Phil]

I do agree that these recent groups (not Slipknot) are perhaps adding elements that are currently popular, eg DJ's but there is a flip side to that argument. The only way to bring people to the Metal genre is exposure. While containing some "pop" elements they also have metal elements to their sound (as you said). People listening to Nsync and the like are not going to run out and buy "...and justice for all" or "Vulgar display of power" because they are too far removed from their usual music tastes, but these new groups provide some what of a half way point which will get people looking at metal again. Perhaps after they own "Chocolate Star fish......" and "Hybrid theory" they will become interested in what else the genre has to offer.

I do agree that Slipknot isn't really new metal. I think their "old school metal" influence shows itself prominently and i would hardly say Corey's voice has "pop" appeal, lol. I guess they are an old school band competeing in a whole new market.

[smfulla]

I see where you're coming from dude, I really do.

but it seems to me its the more younger, musically uneducated/undeveloped people who flock to it. And the reason for that is the pop appeal. I mean I guess I'm sort of... different in my views, but I don't really mind if say an old skool metallica or slayer fan listens to nu-metal, to me it shows they're exploring the various genre's metal has to offer, but when kids go straight into nu-metal, that's all they're ever really exposed to. Because of the pop appeal. Nu-metal is the only metal genre that is not underground. Everything else is, and will still remain underground. Why? Because some people are ignorant to the musical talents of artists such as Rhapsody, Slayer, Emperor, Children Of Bodom, (Old)Metallica and Megadeth. To name but a few. And the reason for this IMHO is because uneducated listeners of music tend to not want to be immersed in music itself, but just the one thing they find to be acceptable.
Like I'll find people who have been listening to music for ages, and their original fav style of music was classical, but then they grew on to metal, then rock, then blues, etc. Maybe I am partially contradicting myself =] but I mean, its really today's youth who are the main listeners of nu-metal... but as with every popular fad, it dies out. One more thing, peer-pressure is also involved too.

[fizz]

ill jus say two things
Metal bands can make another SUCESSFUL album..
nu - metal bands tend not to.
i May be proven wrong - my own opinion, Slayer have again and again sold albums with impressive sales, and so have metallica- mmm...metallica..
but watch papa roach.
even slipknot - what the hells the new album about.

[Problem Child]

but I mean, its really today's youth who are the main listeners of nu-metal... but as with every popular fad, it dies out. One more thing, peer-pressure is also involved too.

Amen.

[Schecter_dude]

Just a little word in defence of one of my fav bands (Papa Roach) who are classed "Nu-Metal"...

fizz said that nu-metal bands tend not to make successful albums... now, even though I only have two, Papa Roach made a total of five albums and are onto their sixth... that's gotta say something.

[slaughteredsoul]

It's not how many albums you make,sometimes, its not even about how succesful you are that makes a good band.
Plus if you are into Papa roach and you think they're a great band,doesn't matter how they're classed,as long as they sound good to you.
But fact,not opinion,Papa roach dont make anything new,and that's why they wont last around for too long,and that's also why they're considered a rubbish band to many people.

[smfulla]

But fact,not opinion,Papa roach dont make anything new,and that's why they wont last around for too long,and that's also why they're considered a rubbish band to many people.
Exactly!!!!!!!! It's the same thing over and over again. Have you ever listened to all of Hybrid Theory by Linkin Park (it's hard to stomach, but in anycase), it's ALL the same. It's like every song could be mixed together at any part to make one song that would sound like reasonably 'good'.

Take metallica for instance, in the album master of puppets, there is very definitive songs in there. Battery, Welcome Home, Orion, Master Of Puppets, (trying to think of the other songs in MOP, LOL =]) The Thing That Should Not Be, Disposable Heroes, Damage Inc. and Leper Messiah. All very different.

[slaughteredsoul]

i know,thats so true,its like every song has its own personality,each song is an overwhelming experience by itself. many bands i listen to,even though i wouldn't call them nu-metal bands,have this...irritation thing,like 'when's this song gonna finish,i wanna hear whats next' but for metallica..each song is so different,and breathtaking,u are too overwhelmed to think of "whats next?" ..of course, this is just me.
i got hold of a tape from one of my friends,of a road guitarist in canada,just a normal dude who writes his own songs and plays for money,and he sells tapes he recorded himself,but this guy is VERY talented,but of course,not known.so we can say that he isn't succesful,not because he isn't good,but he's not given the chance..so succesfulness of a band cant be measured with how many albums sold,or albums made,but by talent.Which many bands now a days lack.
i could not finish listening to "crawling"...there is no way i'd bear the whole CD. i think exploring new music is a must, but NU-metal has nothing new about it.

[ZakNafien]

It wouldnt be that bad but everytime i turn on the radio and hear either Papa Roach or LP i always end up thinking it's the other band, it's also like the black metal i listen to (Dimmu Borgir) i love the music but god damn EVERY band is just a copy of the next!! you put two albums together and they are almost identical all the voices the same, riffing the same everything. On alot i've heard even the drum rythm doesnt change from 5 set pieces.

[Schecter_dude]

That's a fair point, but one final one in defence from myself, if I may...

The first four of Papa Roach's albums were totally different from Infest... I'd go as far as to say a completely different genre of music.

But hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, right? If bands like Papa Roach fizz out, so be it. But I like 'em!

[Phil]

Originally posted by smfulla
but I mean, its really today's youth who are the main listeners of nu-metal... but as with every popular fad, it dies out. One more thing, peer-pressure is also involved too.

You have all made some very good points i must admit, but will say that you speak about Nu-metal the same way people spoke about Hip Hop when Run DMC started out in the early 80's. Most music critics gave the style 5 years and it'd never be heard of again. See my point? lol :)

But it's all good. I still think hearing new metal on the radio while i'm at work is better than listening to pop all day. That drives me mad!

[slaughteredsoul]

i see your point and I'm trying not to bash,mainly just stating an opinion but Run DMC started a new genre of music.Nu-metal bands think they're the heaviest thing since Metallica.

[Phil]

LOL! i'll agree with you there. Some of them get on stage and the only thing bigger than their amp stack is their swelled head. Perfect example of this IMHO is Fred Durst, I really hate that guy, hehe :)