Someone help me with Nirvana

[Scorpion]

Smells like teen spirit I have no clue how to read music but I'm good at sounding out the notes some times with this song I cant do it can anyone help

[B-Funk420]

F-Bb(or A#)-Ab(or G#)-Db(or C#). That's the intro and the chorus.

[cma]

I think it's - E# A# G# C#

Greetings, cma

[popmusic_sux]

its the same notes...

[cma]

Yes but he forgot the #E? (sorry if I am wrong – reading music confuses me too fast ;))

[popmusic_sux]

an E# is the same as an F

[B-Funk420]

E# doesn't exist. E and B do not have sharps, a half step up from E is F.

[Mettra]

Originally posted by B-Funk420
E# doesn't exist. E and B do not have sharps, a half step up from E is F.

Tell that to concert music arrangers. And while you're at it, tell them there's not Cb or Dbb or B# or anything like that.

Just because something doesn't have a sharp/flat key on the piano doesn't mean it can't be sharp/flat. I have seen so many Cb's that I am completely used to it.

I used to argue that the note should be called by its proper name too. But when I really paid attention, I decided the proper name should be whatever makes most sense in the arrangement.

[sewerhobo]

Well the way I see it E# and B# do exist although under a different name. In proper terms E# and B# are just referred to as F and C. Same scenario for F flat and C flat.

[wild_axeman]

E# and B# both exist as does Cb

Take the enharmonically equivalent keys of F# and Gb for example:

Key of F#
F#,G#,A#,B,C#,D#,E#

Key of Gb
Gb,Ab,Bb,Cb,Db,Eb,F

^ in either case you get an anomoly (either E# or Cb)



take the enharmonically equivalent keys of C# and Db:

Key of C#
C#,D#,E#,F#,G#,A#,B#

Key of Db
Db,Eb,F,Gb,Ab,Bb,C

^Db is normal by comparison.It doesn't have the B# anomoly that C# does.It has 5 flats vs. C# which has 7 sharps!




now look at the enharmonic equivalent keys of Cb and B:

Key of Cb
Cb,Db,Eb,Fb,Gb,Ab,Bb

^Cb! and Fb!

vs.

The key of B
B,C#,D#,E,F#,G#,A#

^5 sharps in B vs. Cb which has 7 flats


There are 12 keys and 15 key signatures for them.
If you had to write the key signatures in by hand then
you would rather write in Db (5 flats) vs. C# (7 sharps)
and B (5 sharps) vs. Cb (7 flats).Plus the keys of B and Db
don't throw you any curve balls like their enharmonic counterparts
do.The enharmonic keys of F# and Gb both contain 6 accidentals and both contain an anomoly so it doesn't matter that much which you choose.But F# makes sense because it's the only sharp key with an actual sharp in it's name and because it contains 6 sharps and since you don't need to go to 7 sharps for the reasons mentioned then it's the last sharp key if you move clockwise around the circle of fifths.

plus every key is named by either a letter name without an accidental or a letter name with a flat so F# is unique in this regard.

sharp keys flat keys
C
D Db <-(equivalent of C#)
E Eb
F# Gb (enharmonic equivalent of F#)
G ^
A Ab
B <-(equivalent of Cb) Bb

[wild_axeman]

Oh yeah - the song is in F minor (Aeolian) Fm Gdim Ab Bbm Cm Db Eb

The chords are F Bb Ab Db (all major chords!)

The bridge (the hay/yay part) goes from an F chord to a Gb chord.Which no matter how you look at it the Gb major chord resolves down to the tonic note (F) for the solo...

The solo is the main verse melody in F Aeolian.

[Jamezo]

you are one insane motor sucka...

[kcobain]

Hey, wild_axeman: Could you recommend me any text of theory?
I wish I could do those thing of figuring out what scale the music is so I can improvise on it!
I already know chord formation, but I don't know almost anything about scales :(