Talentless Bassists

[welshy20]

just something i was thinking about, which bands do you think have really talentless bassists, i dont mean like small local bands, the kind tht hevnt really had a chance to develop, i mean mainstream, bands that have become realitavly well known,
just post your opinions.....

[popmusic_sux]

anyone on MTV.

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by popmusic_sux
anyone on MTV.

you cant say that... tallica, chili peppers, and tool are all played on MTV and all have great bassists.

my number one example of a great band with a horrible bassist.. Led Zepplin.. JPJ is a mess... also les claypool is sooo over rated... hes not horrible just VERY VERY over rated on his talent

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[~SStork~]

no f*ckin way! Les Claypool has gotta be the best rock bassist. His style is wild but thats how he is, and he can play fast for a bassist, and his cooky melodic basslines always rock:cool:

[Abaddon]

metallica used to have a good bass player...but not anymore. and they dont play any of the old stuff on mtv. so regretfully i'im pushing them into that category. also les claypool is one of the greatest bass palyers ever! how can oyu say he's over rated? basstallica? your insane. and any band that has ever been on TRL... i'm never really impressed with ozzy's bassists either. how coincidental that they all tie in with metallica...hmm...rage against the machine. slayers really sucks. all he does is play 1 note over and over or fallow the guitar.

[welshy20]

The Sex Pistols Glen Matlock is the one i was thinkin of, does anyone agree with that

[BassTallica]

you people are all nutts... do any of you even play bass??

claypool is a mess... i think hes horrible... and rob from tallica (ozzy) is great... when he was with ozzy he was playing alot of music that was written by other bassists... and now that hes in tallica he does an awsome job as a finger bassist... jason used a pick and simpled up alot of the stuff teh cliff wrote but for rob to jump in and play alot of the old riffs his way is great you cant say hes not a good bassist at all

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[Problem Child]

Why do you dislike JPJ so much? I think his basslines were great.

[ibleedmarshall]

Originally posted by Abaddon
metallica used to have a good bass player...but not anymore. and they dont play any of the old stuff on mtv. so regretfully i'im pushing them into that category. also les claypool is one of the greatest bass palyers ever! how can oyu say he's over rated? basstallica? your insane. and any band that has ever been on TRL... i'm never really impressed with ozzy's bassists either. how coincidental that they all tie in with metallica...hmm...rage against the machine. slayers really sucks. all he does is play 1 note over and over or fallow the guitar.


not all of bassist's that played with the Ozz have sucked.... Trujilo is good, and Geezer Butler has some cool stuff....

[popmusic_sux]

I gotta say I really do agree with FleaBassTallicash. Les Claypool= overrated.

Maybe I was a bit hasty just saying "anyone on MTV." But I don't really hear too much from those bands on MTV. They're too busy playing The Real World for me to bother watching.

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by popmusic_sux
I gotta say I really do agree with FleaBassTallicash. Les Claypool= overrated.

Maybe I was a bit hasty just saying "anyone on MTV." But I don't really hear too much from those bands on MTV. They're too busy playing The Real World for me to bother watching.

is it soo wrong to agree with me?? :D

why say no when it feel sooo good to say yes :D

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[st_anger8]

what is it about les claypool that is so bad then?

he wrote the south park theme didnt he? i downloaded primus covering master of puppets live (just up to the end of the main riff) and he was doing it all with his fingers.

i really hope we get some valid evidence for him being so over-rated.

also, rob trujilo RULES!!!

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by st_anger8
what is it about les claypool that is so bad then?

he wrote the south park theme didnt he? i downloaded primus covering master of puppets live (just up to the end of the main riff) and he was doing it all with his fingers.

i really hope we get some valid evidence for him being so over-rated.

also, rob trujilo RULES!!!

hes a name,.... ok ill say hes a good bassist... but its his name that make people think he is a "bass god" john entwistle (sp?) from teh who is a bass god... claypoll is ok... just soo many people talk about him his status gets boosted up soo high

like kirk from tallica... hes good... but people talk about him soo much he gets boosted up higher then he deserves

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[Abaddon]

:| bt just cuz people talk about him higher than you think he should be talked about doesnt mean he isnt a great bassist! that's silly

[MadMattUK]

Originally posted by BassTallica

like kirk from tallica... hes good... but people talk about him soo much he gets boosted up higher then he deserves

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Amen! (sorry i love it when this comes up its so god dam true)

[Austin]

cliff was the best metallica bassist

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by Austin
cliff was the best metallica bassist

yea he was... but you cant deny that jason and rob both fit in with them very well

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[Abaddon]

you cant deny that jason and rob both fit in with them very well

i can...and i am

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by Abaddon
i can...and i am

WHAT?? man jason was very good... and rob is a good bassist too... Rob plays stand up bass as well... and is VERY good with classical music.. he is a REAL bassist

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[Dunit42]

damn it takes an ignorant person to say that john paul jones was a horrible bassist. he came up with many of led zep's catchy riffs, and he also played some good keyboard (see trampled underfoot, misty mountain hop, etc.) i am biased because led zep is one of my favorites and i think jpj did a wonderful job, but thers no way in hell you can say he sucked

[Cosey]

JPJ is great, he played really solid basslines that were very tasteful. He was probably the most musical in the band also, his contributions to the writing of Zep's songs cant go unnoticed.

Claypool is good too if you ask me, his approach may be unorthodox, but you cant deny his raw talent.

[catman]

**** you fellas seem to like alot of gay bassists,at least the fellow who thinks that jason nad rob are good,they my friend are abarage, you said that Rob was playing good stuff written by other players,well anyone can play "good" stuff written by other player,it is what you can come up with that shows what ya can really do.
Also,in saying that Les Clypool is only good ,i find that verry funny,i beleive you even asked if anyone realy played bass around here,i am shure they are do,and i am sure they all have more sense than you,because Les Claypool although he is nowheres near my fav player,is an amazing bass player,and is insave as Entwistle was,Claypool could destroy him.
Ya see Jon was good as the rock rythm bass player,he knew how to make lines that intrested people,his shtuff was crazy,but Claypool on the other hand is basically the lead bass palyer,he is the lead in Primus,I am sure you would have a lot more trouble in all you life learnig a hard sond by Claypool than ya would by Entwistle.

CLIFF BURTON is killer,what a shame R.I.P:(

[dr. bobbins]

zeppelin's rythm section was amazing.listen to the lemon song or dazed and confused.jpj was rock solid.

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by catman
**** you fellas seem to like alot of gay bassists,at least the fellow who thinks that jason nad rob are good,they my friend are abarage, you said that Rob was playing good stuff written by other players,well anyone can play "good" stuff written by other player,it is what you can come up with that shows what ya can really do.
Also,in saying that Les Clypool is only good ,i find that verry funny,i beleive you even asked if anyone realy played bass around here,i am shure they are do,and i am sure they all have more sense than you,because Les Claypool although he is nowheres near my fav player,is an amazing bass player,and is insave as Entwistle was,Claypool could destroy him.
Ya see Jon was good as the rock rythm bass player,he knew how to make lines that intrested people,his shtuff was crazy,but Claypool on the other hand is basically the lead bass palyer,he is the lead in Primus,I am sure you would have a lot more trouble in all you life learnig a hard sond by Claypool than ya would by Entwistle.

CLIFF BURTON is killer,what a shame R.I.P:(


nicely put!!!

[welshy20]

i cant help think that this thread has gone wildly off track from where it started

[Abaddon]

are you kidding? we are still talking about tallentless bassists...

[toast]

Wasn't/isn't rob in BLS?

[AGOFCR]

We all know the most useless bass player ever is Ian Hill of Judas Priest. Have you ever heard the bass line while listening to their music? Heck, the guy didn't even want to be filmed in their videos. Why, because he knew he was worthless. The band could have saved money by not having him, thus not having to pay his salary!!!:D

[Abaddon]

ya he does suck. but judas priest still kicks ass!!!

[68Mustang]

Originally posted by catman
**** you fellas seem to like alot of gay bassists,at least the fellow who thinks that jason nad rob are good,they my friend are abarage, you said that Rob was playing good stuff written by other players,well anyone can play "good" stuff written by other player,it is what you can come up with that shows what ya can really do.
Also,in saying that Les Clypool is only good ,i find that verry funny,i beleive you even asked if anyone realy played bass around here,i am shure they are do,and i am sure they all have more sense than you,because Les Claypool although he is nowheres near my fav player,is an amazing bass player,and is insave as Entwistle was,Claypool could destroy him.
Ya see Jon was good as the rock rythm bass player,he knew how to make lines that intrested people,his shtuff was crazy,but Claypool on the other hand is basically the lead bass palyer,he is the lead in Primus,I am sure you would have a lot more trouble in all you life learnig a hard sond by Claypool than ya would by Entwistle.

CLIFF BURTON is killer,what a shame R.I.P:(

Learn to ****ing type, and none of these bassists are "gay". Lol the way some people talk about Trujillo and other bassists makes it seem like there is a rivalry between Black Sabbath and Metallica.

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by catman
**** you fellas seem to like alot of gay bassists,at least the fellow who thinks that jason nad rob are good,they my friend are abarage, you said that Rob was playing good stuff written by other players,well anyone can play "good" stuff written by other player,it is what you can come up with that shows what ya can really do.
rob wrote some very good creative things for suicidal tendancies

Also,in saying that Les Clypool is only good ,i find that verry funny,i beleive you even asked if anyone realy played bass around here,i am shure they are do,and i am sure they all have more sense than you,because Les Claypool although he is nowheres near my fav player,is an amazing bass player,and is insave as Entwistle was,Claypool could destroy him.
thats just my opinion i dont think he is really that good

Ya see Jon was good as the rock rythm bass player,he knew how to make lines that intrested people,his shtuff was crazy,but Claypool on the other hand is basically the lead bass palyer,he is the lead in Primus,I am sure you would have a lot more trouble in all you life learnig a hard sond by Claypool than ya would by Entwistle.
i have learned songs by primus and personally i dont find his stuff as hard as everyone makes it out to be.. im not saying its super easy at all. but it isnt the hardest stuff out their to play

CLIFF BURTON is killer,what a shame R.I.P:(
amen to that

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[brown_man]

Originally posted by welshy20
just something i was thinking about, which bands do you think have really talentless bassists, i dont mean like small local bands, the kind tht hevnt really had a chance to develop, i mean mainstream, bands that have become realitavly well known,
just post your opinions.....

Bassists from these Bands:

Blink 182
Nirvana

And some new punk band on MTV...

[bassplayer666]

Originally posted by BassTallica
you people are all nutts... do any of you even play bass??

claypool is a mess... i think hes horrible... and rob from tallica (ozzy) is great... when he was with ozzy he was playing alot of music that was written by other bassists... and now that hes in tallica he does an awsome job as a finger bassist... jason used a pick and simpled up alot of the stuff teh cliff wrote but for rob to jump in and play alot of the old riffs his way is great you cant say hes not a good bassist at all

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I still dont understand y they both switched bands?

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by bassplayer666
I still dont understand y they both switched bands?

Jason left tallica cause A. they werent working on anything at the time B. they wouldnt let him make his echobrain album.

Rob left ozzy cause metallica asked him to be the new bassist.

Jason was then asked to try out for ozzy and they asked him to be their bassist

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[Cosey]

Basstallica and other people, just cause a part is easy to play does not neccesarily mean the player playing it is not talented. It does show alot about the player and may be true in many cases, but you shouldnt let that solely influence your thoughts on a player. There are plenty of awesome bassists who have played simple root/fifth bass lines at times.

First and foremost the bass is the nucleus of the band, you need to assist the other players by keeping time for everyone and establishing where chord changes occur. After that part of the job is fulfilled you can worry about spicing up your playing with difficult lines and syncopation, etc.

That being said I think Claypool is great. He has amazing time even while playing very complex slap figures and really compliments the band nicely. He fulfills the basic job of a bassist yet he manages to still be totally unique in every way. That is extremely difficult to do and whether you like it or not it places him in an elite group of bassists.

Oh and if you want a difficult bass part form Claypool, check out their latest album some of the slap lines he plays are heavily syncpated and really difficult to play correctly.

[chris_6t9r]

I know I'll probably sound ignorant when I say this, (Considering, i've only recently started to want to learn how to play the bass guitar) but I wouldn't know a lousy bass player if I heard one. They all sound the same to me. Sometimes I don't even notice the bass in songs. Except anything from RHCP. Flea is amazing on bass. So is Tim from RATM.

[BassTallica]

Originally posted by Cosey
Basstallica and other people, just cause a part is easy to play does not neccesarily mean the player playing it is not talented. It does show alot about the player and may be true in many cases, but you shouldnt let that solely influence your thoughts on a player. There are plenty of awesome bassists who have played simple root/fifth bass lines at times.

First and foremost the bass is the nucleus of the band, you need to assist the other players by keeping time for everyone and establishing where chord changes occur. After that part of the job is fulfilled you can worry about spicing up your playing with difficult lines and syncopation, etc.

That being said I think Claypool is great. He has amazing time even while playing very complex slap figures and really compliments the band nicely. He fulfills the basic job of a bassist yet he manages to still be totally unique in every way. That is extremely difficult to do and whether you like it or not it places him in an elite group of bassists.

Oh and if you want a difficult bass part form Claypool, check out their latest album some of the slap lines he plays are heavily syncpated and really difficult to play correctly.

i agree with you... sam rivers from limp bizkit plays very simple thigns.. but i find him to be a very talented bassist.. and he has the ability to paly alot better but he chooses not to.

its just my opinion that claypool is over rated.. i dont like him.. that dosnt mean other people have to hate him

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